hate it, if the market dictated that I could make millions as a teenager, I wouldn't want that opportunity taken away from me...not to mention the world class training facilities and coaching I would get to fast track my career..the busts you see who came out too early never had any work ethic or discipline to begin with, that's why there is an intense scouting program and interview process now
that seems like that would only exacerbate whatever problem supposedly exists from allowing guys to declare out of high school (imo there isn't a problem). it's not as if everybody in the old days declared right out of high school. only those who really thought they were ready and felt teams would draft them. if you apply an all or nothing approach where you have to wait 3 years if you don't declare out of high school, i imagine a lot more players thinking they are ready out of high school because they don't want to wait 3 years to get a contract. this isn't baseball. people who are 18, 19, and 20 can produce at the professional level. certainly more than seem to be able to in baseball (as bobrek's post noted). now you're just incentivizing them even moreso to declare out of high school. if you know that waiting might just mean an extra year to prove yourself, it's a lot easier to go the college route. let people declare when they feel they are ready and teams feel they are ready to be drafted. people don't want to declare and go undrafted so there's plenty of motivation to not declare early. the nba has the d-league now. i don't see why this can't be put to good use. the rockets stash rookies there consistently and then bring them up right into playing time. it seems like a good setup if used properly. this was already happening though. quite a few HOF and all-star caliber players have been drafted out of high school. and the vast majority of the draft was still people who went to college (or were from other countries) because those guys knew they had to go to college to prove themselves and teams knew they wouldn't draft those guys without that proof. sure did some guys bust? of course. any more than when guys went to 3 or 4 years of college? it certainly didn't seem so. and given the successes, high school draftees don't seem to have worked out poorly at all. how many guys have had games well-suited to the college game and fooled scouts into wasting high draft picks when their games didn't translate to the nba? while i don't agree with it, i can at least sort of buy the 1 year of college/19 year old age limit rule, just because the disparity in high school competition is so great and the level of play is so far removed from the nba that it might be fair to give scouts/teams a year of college to evaluate a player in a more controlled/understood environment. but in a sport where people can produce at 19 and 20 years old, if you need more than a year to save you from yourself in the draft, then i think it's on the team(s) at that point to know who to draft. while i suppose one can argue a more successful college game does a better job to ultimately promote the nba, as much more of an nba fan, i would rather see the 450 best players in the nba. i think 19 year olds and one and done players are routinely part of that top 450 and could knock a few 15th men out of the game who are no longer part of that top 450. ultimately i think it's probably much ado about nothing. the nba will survive just fine if we have to wait an extra year for a lebron or durant and the nba survived just fine when we got lebron and durant right out of high school or a year of college. since the teams want it and the union probably likes preserving the jobs of current players, this might pass but it really shouldn't.
Yep. It isn't much but if talented high schoolers choose the D-league that could change. The product will be more attractive and might invite higher salaries.
First it was 1 year, now they want to move to 2, smh.. I don't see this going well.. 15 years from now they want players to go to school for 4 years, b4 they can enter the draft, I feel like if the kid has talent let him play.. I hope most of the top recruit go play oversea's.. once the nba start loosing money they gone change the limit back down to 18
So we are supposed to feel sorry for the players who were overrated and in reality not good enough? A better example of a problem with this system and players losing potential millions is Noel. He was going to go #1 overall but instead tore his ACL, dropped to 6 and now have a lot of question marks concerning his career.
I doubt it. It reduces the amount of players available in a given year. If they require a player to play two years of College (or be two years removed from high school), a lot of players will be weeded out. Players suffer career ending injuries. Other high potential players flame out. Others expose their poor character. The larger the pool of players a team has to choose from, the more opportunity there is for them to screw up and for a talented player to slip through the cracks and fall later into the first round or into the second round. You can be Morey LOVES when teams are enamored with high potential players with a high bust probability. That's how guys like Aaron Brooks, Carl Landry, Chase Budinger and Chandler Parsons can be snatched late in the first round and well into the second round. I'm sure Morey would love more data to evaluate if we ever picked players in the top 5-8 spots. But we don't. So I'm sure he'd prefer teams gamble big while he continues to snatch up quality NBA talent that is being over-looked for whatever reason.
One of the great advantages of basketball is that if you need money during a protracted lock out, you can go to Europe or China.
Doesn't necessarily reduce lifetime pay on average. If this is instituted, I imagine players will be farther along in their development when their second contract rolls around, fetching them more money. It's also worth considering that some of these guys are coming out so young that they get buried, labeled as a bust, and are out of the league before they have a chance to develop into a contributor.
Expand the draft to four or five rounds and invest in a DLeague. A REAL DLeague, with an affiliate for each franchise and an age limit of 17 (HS diploma required). Make the minimum salary something like $80k, then raise the NBA age limit to 21, with each team allowed one exception for a player under the limit. It would never happen, because the players association and owners wouldn't be willing to make the investment (and it would likely kill the College game). But the incoming rookies would be soooo much more polished.
Playing devil's advocate, those kids get to develop their skills at various levels before reaching the majors. The NBA is pretty much pass/fail after a few years at the highest level I'm on the fence on this one
I say have players graduate college first before entering the pros, regardless of age. Maybe add military service too.
Personally I love the baseball system and hate the NFL system. The latter I believe is basically a system that cheats players out of their money. But from a business standpoint, I can definitely see why they would impose this rule. Have players develop for free, let NCAA make their money, and NBA owners gripe less about draft busts. What I am curious though, is whether this strengthens the European leagues. If you have to wait two years, a lot of the current one-and-done may decide to play elsewhere. Imagine Wiggins in the Euroleague. Wonder if that may actually help the NBA internationally.
Good. I'm glad its destroying college basketball. The schools are earning millions off the players while giving back almost nothing to them. The free "education" are almost worthless for these 1 & done players (the players that'll almost certainly be drafted). Staying 4 years and completing whatever bull**** major these players usually pick will not make them more responsible, mature individuals and it sure as hell would not make them more financially competent either.
I couldn't care less about the destroying the program argument, but You are also speaking bull ****. 1 year of education in college is usually equal to 40k that everyone else has to pay. Athletes get more than enough to play in college
