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ESPN: Warriors #fullsquad coming up empty

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. kuku

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    Last year the Warriors were the Cinderella team, a mediocre team that over achieved by all standard of measurements.

    2011, Rockets were +2.2/game in point differential and still missed the playoffs. It was not only a miracle that Warriors made to the WC playoffs with their measly point differential of +0.9/game, they went on and captured the 6th seed. On top of that, they upset Nuggets and gave Spurs all they could handle on the second round. They were on a "Dubsanity" year and hence, became the instant media darling (Just like Lin) with high expectations for this year. When we talk about Dubs (W's), everyone should look the team w/o the hype.

    This might be somewhat a surprise but their offense efficiency remains the same as last year but their defense took a huge step forward.

    Their record might indicate otherwise, but in reality, by all statistical measurements, they are a much better team than last year with a huge improvement in point differential of +4.3/game.
     
  2. J Sizzle

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    To Andrew Wiggins...

    I'm just saying...

    Don't say the Warriors are surefire gonna "kick our ass" when we have a better record despite a harder schedule to date, not all of our lineup together, and also have beaten them fairly handily in most of the games we've played the last 2 seasons. The Warriors definitely have potential to do damage, but so do we, and Andre Iguodala, who really hasn't played that well overall this season and has been injury prone, is not the guy that really makes me think of them as a true threat in the West.
     
  3. Andrew Wiggins

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    Iggy and Bogut.
    Allen (or Lee) and Gasol.
    Stephenson and Hibbert.

    Good defenders at the 2 and the 5 and the Rockets tend to lose. Especially when they have a PF who can post up like Lee, West, and Randolph.
     
  4. Andrew Wiggins

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    In a playoff series (without Asik) they take us to 7 games if we gave HC.

    They should get the W on the 20th in a regular season game at home. How they play on that night will tell me if they would beat us in a 4-5 matchup with home court (since everyone should be healthy barring injuries).
     
  5. J Sizzle

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    Well this is just completely dumb logic...

    If you're basing our prospects against the Warriors on 1 game in the middle of the regular season, that's just silly, especially if you're not taking into account the 2 times we've beaten the Warriors ourselves.

    You're trying to make Iguodala sound like he has this completely insane impact, when he just doesn't. He's a good player, and the Warriors are better with him than without him, but he's not THAT good...

    You also act like the Rockets are a complete team as well. Either we keep Asik and he comes back and plays, giving us another elite defensive player, or we trade him at the deadline for additional pieces that make us better as well.

    You a Warriors fan, or what?
     
  6. R0ckets03

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    The Warriors can't sneak up on anyone anymore. Simple as that.
     
  7. tehG l i d e

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    Based on his other posts he's not really Rockets fan.
     
  8. Aleron

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    if the warriors shooters get hot, yeah they can beat anyone, but they don't really generate enough easy points to be a real threat. OKC, Chris Paul and finding a way to play awful, that's really the only threats we have in the west, in the east looms david west abuse and the omnipresent lebron.
     
  9. Nook

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    Meh

    Warriors lose as much on offense as they gain on defense with Iguodala on the floor. He is just a bad offensive player at this point that GS gets to over pay for years.

    Thompson and Curry can rain 3's, but neither can create for themselves. Actually their isn't a player on their team that can, and like Memphis that is why they won't ever be great.

    They can beat anyone on any given night if Curry and Thompson are hitting their 3's and Lee and Bogut get enough offensive rebounds but that doesn't work over several series.

    They are what they are, a fun team with a limited ceiling and a man w**** coach that claims to be a minister but cheats on his wife.
     
  10. cheke64

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    Curry and klay can create on their own.

    The problem with them is that's all they will do is ISO ball and look for that 3 shot. It's a flaw philosophy. When the 3s aren't falling what do they fall on? Nothing.
     
  11. FoOLiSh_AzN

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    If Denver had Gallinari, and GSW had David Lee...GSW would still beat Denver
     
  12. YaoMing#1

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    GSW were not that good last year. I admit I got caught up in the hype last year during the playoffs and was rooting for them because they were the underdog. Fast forward to now and they our who I thought they were.... A 6-8 playoff team. They won 46 game last yr and lost bench depth but gained wing defense overall I think it was a wash what were seeing from the dubs is natural growth from curry and the others that's why their in pace to win a few more games this season. But in all fairness their nit a contender and the rockets our a much better team then the warriors. We have better players at every position including bench only thing they have the rockets don't is pg because of curry. The rockets are a top 3 team out west and by season end will be considered a top 5 team and a true contender IMO.
     
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    It is the only game we play the warriors with Iggy. You want to base it off an incomplete team and the team we would most likely not face in the playoffs. Yes Andre's impact is huge because Harden dominates Klay Thompson and he is too quick and crafty for Banes that they try to put Draymond Greene on him.

    Bogut and Iggy will contain Harden and Howard.

    As for asik, we will find out soon. I hope you're right, but a players like Courtney lee and Brandon bass won't make us contenders.
    Because of what? Because I don't think we can beat the Clippers in a 7 game series. Do you? Willing to put money on that?

    On the 20th I will be right and I won't rub your nose in it. Being right doesn't make me less of a fan.
     
  14. crash5179

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    The Rockets have won 5 games out of the last 6 against the Warriors in the last 2 seasons. In those 6 games the Rockets are a + 42 points against the Warriors. We have played the Warriors 3 times on their court and won all 3 times. In both wins this season we were missing key pieces out of our rotation.

    I have a healthy respect for what the Warriors are capable of, but in no way am I scared of them beating the Rockets in a 7 game series. If any team in the NBA has underperformed from what was expected of them this season it's the Warriors. Jackson may know x's and o's but he certainly is not utilizing that team to it's strengths IMO.
     
  15. Nook

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    Meh I can't agree with you on Thompson and Curry creating.
     
  16. Easy

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    Curry has only 29% of his points assisted, compared to, say, Harden's 33%. I'd say he can create alright.
     
  17. wfeebs

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    I think people are severely overlooking the fact that Klay has been a below average shooter since the beginning of December
     
  18. Voice of Aus

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    To his standards you would say inconsistent, most of the games I have seen him play he has been good or bad, not much else.

    But compared to others he has wen about average, not below average
     
  19. rinklob

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    Curry is basically the only creator on that team. Desperately needs a secondary ballhandler who's more consistent than Iguodala. After a hot streak to start the season, Klay has been awful.
     
  20. across110thstreet

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    I don't know who I was listening to, some NBA analyst on ESPN or Fox Sports radio, and he was still doubling down on the Warriors being the best team in the West when healthy.
     

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