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Workout/Nutrition Help Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by SK34, Jan 2, 2014.

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  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    Started p90x3 this morning. I'm already in very good shape (10-11 percent body fat), and have completed p90x and insanity already from beachbody. But I needed a new workout to do in the mornings to start my day.

    p90x3 videos are only 30 minutes, unlike most p90x videos that were almost an hour. I found the first video (core synergistics) to be ok, not great, and definitely a little short compared to what I'm used to. I'm going to stick with it though.

    Of course the biggest gains come from the diet component.
     
  2. SacTown

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    My feeding window is 1pm-9pm and then I do bulletproof fasting which is very similar to IF fasting but it allows coffee with butter & MCT oil to kick start the fat loss and suppresses your hunger in the mornings. You can read more about bulletproof fasting here:

    http://www.bulletproofexec.com/bulletproof-fasting/
     
  3. finalsbound

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    ooh nice. let us know how x3 yoga compares to the original. also very interested to know how challenging the CVX workout is compared to say, plyo.
     
  4. HR Dept

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    Does this stuff really work for you? The whole Bulletproof Coffee thing just seems like an overpriced ripoff to me. Not to mention putting butter in it.
     
  5. RMGEEGEE

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    Started a lifting regimen on Monday to build some muscle. I think my biggest concern is sleep... I don't think I get enough for proper body recovery. I average 7-7.5 hours usually.

    What kind of sleep works for you guys when partaking in a 8-5 and working out regularly?
     
  6. Bogey

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    I think sleep is recommended between 7 and 8 hours a night, so you should be fine.
     
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    I just started block 2. Never did any p90x before this but did lift and play racquetball frequently. Some of the workouts do leave something to be desired because you don't feel like you were challenged enough (core synergistics and yoga x being two of them). But I thought agility x, cvx, and the challenge were all ideal 30 min workouts and really felt like I had done something.

    I haven't seen any significant muscle gain yet but do feel a little stronger (not aiming for weight loss). I caught up with block 1 pretty quickly. After this block I expect to really notice some kind of results.
     
  8. Sajan

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    eating suppresses appetite? no way!

    please post research showing it boosts it by 10%. 10% from what..you baseline metabolism?

    so if you need 2000 cals for the day if you weren't going to eat breakfast..now you need 2200 just cause you ate breakfast? :confused:
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Close to 7.5 a night seems like plenty to me. I tend to get around 7 or so. I generally run 4-6 days a week 6+ miles each time. I do strength training two days a week, oftentimes on the same day I run. Sleep has not been a problem.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I think his point about eating breakfast suppressing appetite is intended to say that if you do eat a good, healthy breakfast, you won't have cravings for that donut, or bag of chips, or twinkles.

    More on the metabolism issue:
    http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/breakfast-affect-metabolism-8697.html
     
  11. SacTown

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    Not only did it work for me, I would go as far as saying that it changed my life as I always struggled in the mornings my whole life.

    You don't have to buy his coffee but if you really look at the costs, it's only a few dollars more than a decent bag of coffee you could buy from the grocery store or starbucks. Sometimes mycotoxins don't affect everyone. If you get jittery and foggy after coffee then it's most likely the mycotoxins and not the caffeine so you would benefit from a low mold coffee like Dave's.

    The main thing is to not put crappy carb/sugary foods in your body in the mornings. That's not brain food. I always followed a low fat diet which was stupid in hindsight and I never felt good in the mornings. I've tried doing eggs, turkey bacon, oatmeal, cereal, protein shakes, you name it for breakfast and never felt good.

    The concept of loading yourself with fat in the mornings is where the science comes in. It provides the ultimate fuel to your brain, makes you full, and puts your body into a ketosis type fat burning mode. You don't need the coffee and Dave says this but it's optimal. You do need the MCT oil however. If you don't want to buy the bulletproof MCT oil you can get the NOW foods MCT oil from Amazon for a few dollars less.

    Grass fed butter by the way is a superfood. Combine that with the medium chain triglycerides in the MCT oil and add a bit of caffeine and you can prepare yourself for a pretty awesome morning and you don't even have to think about food again until lunch or sometime after.
     
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    This. Also to add, it's more like you aliquot 200-500cal of that 2000 FOR breakfast as opposed to IN ADDITION. Not sure why you're so adamant against breakfast, but eating an apple with some egg whites and avocado in the morning is worth it for the healthy energy boost alone (and takes less than 10min to prepare).
     
  13. Cannonball

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    Personally, I really don't get hungry until AFTER my first meal. If I just don't eat, I won't get hungry until some time between 2 and 4 PM. But if I eat a small breakfast, I'll be hungry by noon. If I eat a larger breakfast, I won't be hungry at lunch but it won't last me until dinner either and I'll want a mid-afternoon snack. The bottom line is that I've done the math, I consume fewer calories when I don't eat breakfast and I don't get cravings by skipping it.
     
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    this, totally
     
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    Can't speak of the bulletproof Coffee, but my experience with intermittent fasting, 8 hour eating window, 16 hour fast, was the best I've EVER felt physically

    Use to be very active, during highschool alot of rugby/still do, but when the season ended and studies took priority I went full r****d and put on 10kgs, 100 to 110 (naturally very heavy/ athletic at that weight).

    If you're eating at a decent caloric deficit, and you practice intermittent fasting, the weight MELTS off. If you can get through the first week of it, you'll won't feel the need to eat outside of the window or get cravings.

    Our bodies weren't designed to eat like chipmunks 24/7/365, and anyone who is looking to lose weight in particular I'd fully recommend intermittent fasting.

    I don't do it now however, because I'm alot stricter with my diet/caloric intake and operating a caloric surplus

    http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html
     
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  16. Sajan

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    exactly!

    you don't think i haven't tried eating breakfast?? geez. from 2004 till 2012 (when i discovered intermittent fasting)...i was the biggest supporter of eating breakfast.

    No matter how much calories i had for breakfast and regardless of high protein/low sugar..i would get hungry 3-4 hours later..which happened to be about 11am. So essentially with another 12 hours left in my day..I was down 500-600 cals. Most of the time when I ate breakfast, I wasn't even hungry. I did it cause thats what "they" told me to do.

    If people would listen to their bodies and stop listening to myths fueled by companies based on biased research...it would do them a lot of good.

    It's funny to see how everyones on the sweet potato fries bandwagon (uhm..once it's deep fried..it's just as good as regular fries). Hell even greek yogurt is being destroyed by the major companies.

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    Dannon. More sugar than protein..smh
     
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  17. Sajan

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    I was asking you for numbers regarding the 10% metabolic boost by eating..

    Help me understand it. Lets assume we both need 2000 cals a day but because you ate breakfast..you got a 200 calorie boost? Now you get to eat 200 more for that day?
     
  18. I am a Donut

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    I just finsished Why We Get Fat by Gary It Taubes. It is a great read, and a major eye opener. I will never read nutritional advice the same again. It traces the history of weight loss strategies over the last century or so. It dispels the idea of "calories in, calories out," then focuses on the actual physiology of fat creation and fat reduction. This should be a liberating read for anyone who has ever struggled with conventional eat less, low fat, exercise strategies for weight loss (which have actually only been used for about 50 years, and ironically, coincide with the rise of the so-called obesity epidemic).

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  19. Cannonball

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    There are some good videos on YouTube of him talking about it.
     
  20. RV6

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    15g protein and, IIRC, 4 grams of sugar.
     

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