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Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2013-14

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jul 27, 2013.

  1. JoeBarelyCares

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    Random trade idea for Kyle Lowry: Beverly, DMo, Greg Smith and Brewer for Lowry.

    Not sure Toronto wants any part of Lin or Asik's balloon payment, and we may want to keep their salaries around, anyway, to use in a potential sign and trade with Miami for Bosh this summer.
     
  2. DrNuegebauer

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    1. We don't really have a great bench. That's been a weak spot for the Rockets this season (because we went all in to get a star in Howard).

    2. The Warriors are the opposite. They don't really have a 'top line' star, although Curry is on the rise. When they failed to get the 'star', they retooled around the concept of a deeper lineup and 2 semi-stars.

    3. With the proposal you put forth, I'm not sure there's any reason for anyone to listen to your comments about the sanity of our GM or otherwise!

    4. Chill out? If you agree that it was a vacuous post, then let it be ridiculed as vacuous. I don't understand why you're defending it, or trying to reason in its favour.
     
  3. dingus

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    Please do not take my tone as heated at all. I am just baffled by your arguments against this trade. In my original, and subsequent, post(s) I have fully admitted why I think it is a foolish proposal. Only one of which you incorrectly acknowledged. However, your authoritative argument against my harmless post left me no choice but to defend this trade and this entire board from your continued tyranny of poor logic.

    Let's take a look at what you've said thus far:

    In my original post I acknowledge that this trade is both unrealistic and illogical. You come along later and dismiss my post as illogical. Well observed. It was a merely a continuation of the current conversation as to whether Afflalo is a reasonable trade target, and how the Rockets could acquire him with seemingly very little in the cupboard. Afflalo's acquisition is semi-redundant with Harden, so I offered that Love-Afflalo-Howard would be a tantalizing combination. Just an interesting scenario to think upon.

    You then tell me that Harden is a leader of men while Love could never make the playoffs, much less lead a team to the vaunted realm of contending (paraphrased). Such commentary is a little outdated. One player does not a team make. Kevin Love is not without his flaws but holding him responsible for an organizational deficit (poor team building, poor coaching prior to Adelman) is a little brash. This argument should not even veer into the kind of leadership Harden has actually displayed since joining Houston.

    Now you castigate my post as claiming that Houston in fact has a weak bench, a point I never once claimed opposite. Houston has three assets of varied value on the bench, but that argument has no intention of saying their trade value equates to quality performance. My only comment on that front was that my proposal, and it's three dimes for a quarter nature, would leave our bench even MORE barren than its current iteration. You followed up that misstep with the misinterpretation that Golden State's well rounded, but superstar bereft, starting lineup somehow excuses their lack of bench. If you had followed my point to any length, you could see that I was pointing out that their pursuit of a top notch starting five (haven't checked the stats as of late, but they were recently head and shoulders above any other five man unit in the league) has left their bench decimated. This is where I do my best not to eviscerate Draymon Green and everything he stands for in this world (SLIGHT over-exaggeration)

    All in all I would agree that this argument is a waste of time. I just dislike when people attempt to rule a board, much less the silliest subsection of said board, with an iron fist and declare their erroneous logic as the one true word. Either be big enough to let it go or be smart it enough to vanquish it thoroughly. You have done neither.
     
  4. AndySwanny

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    Asik + 2015 protected 1st for Evan Turner & Moultrie ?
    Turner would allow more rest for both Harden & Parsons and he's a RFA this summer, Moultrie is a big body (6'11, 250) on a rookie deal & is not playing at all
     
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  7. t0mdotcom

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    There were rumors a while back about Denver trying to trade Kenneth Faried. JaVale McGee is currently the 3rd center on the depth chart and JJ Hickson is an undersized center.

    Houston IN:

    Wilson Chandler: $2 Million guaranteed in 2015.
    Timofey Mozgov: 2015 Team Option
    Kenneth Faried: Contract ends after 2014/2015

    Denver IN:

    Omer Asik
    Donatas Montiejunas
    Greg Smith
    2014 2nd round pick from Houston (via NYK)

    I feel like Houston would have to give up more, but I think Faried has reached his ceiling. Great rebounder, but not much range when it comes to shooting.
     
  8. Nook

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    Timofey Mozgov has the potential to be a very good player.
     
  9. AXG

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    Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik and Robert Covington to Toronto in exchange for Kyle Lowry, Amir Johnson and Austin Daye.
     
  10. Zoplicone

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    I wanted Evan turner all year but in reality he doesn't bring the shooting we need.
    To be honest after watching last nights game, I see Phoenix as a great trade partner. Unfortunately their bigs are really young so they would probably rather have them develop, but they could definitely have used a defensive big like Asik. I bet they would love to have parsons too and build around him and Bledsoe.
    I would love to have Frye, and ofcourse would always welcome Dragic back.
     
  11. t0mdotcom

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    That is not the Morey way.We are giving up more than we are getting back.
     
  13. Nook

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    Deng to Houston could become a possibility again.

    He would fit in well at the 3-4 and allow the Rockets rotation to increase.

    Jones could even slide to the 5 in some lineups with Deng and Parsons are the 3 and 4.
     
  14. t0mdotcom

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    I see what you mean, but at the same time Asik's value is at an all time low. Varejao is a very underrated player and CJ Miles is a really good 3pt shooter.

    If you can't get young players/good draft picks for Asik, the next best thing to do is create cap space, while upgrading your bench.

    Asik's 2014/2015 contract is fully guaranteed for $14,898,938 ($8,374,646 cap hit).

    D-Mo has a cap hit of $1,483,920 in 2014/2015

    Varejao's 2014/2015 contract is partially guaranteed for $4,000,000.

    CJ Miles is in the last year of his contract for $2,225,000.
     
  15. t0mdotcom

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    I can honestly see us plucking Dion Waiters away. Him and Asik both want out of their current situations.
     
  16. mattlivin05

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    I think we should try and get varejo, miles, and deng for asik, lin, dmo, and brewer
     
  17. Voice of Aus

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    Deng has to be traded by himself.

    They could do deng for lin then the second deal of Asik DMo brewer for varejoe miles but I'm not sure what's the leagues stance on these dodgy deals are
     
  18. t0mdotcom

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    I was thinking the same thing. I know Deng can't be traded with other players, but wasn't sure if they would allow two separate trades.
     
  19. Voice of Aus

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    Also I don't expect the cavs to change the team completely, Gilbert still wants playoff success so tanking isn't an option
     

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