Obama to raise federal minimum wage via executive order

LOL. Awesome. You'd rather dodge the question and make yourself look silly than agree with me.

 

Specify exactly what you are asking & define the terms & you get answers you seek - what kind of technology? etc.

BTW, I don't disagree with your core statement "TECHNOLOGY IS ADVANCING!" - i just think it's so basic, there's no point in highlighting it.

 

With some markets, if you increase their speed and efficiency enough, you can transform them into a radically different one.

Did you not watch the State of the Union? He urged lawmakers to increase the minimum wage to $10.10 and kept repeating "Give America a raise!!".

Your perception is intuitively wrong. Like I said before, if the self-checkout registers weren't there, the grocery store would have to employ more cashiers & sackers to provide the same level of service. However, because the grocery store utilizes the self-checkout registers, it does not need to employ these additional cashiers/sacker. In other words, the self-checkout registers have REPLACED the additional cashiers/sackers.

This is such a basic level of common sense that I now realize you've been trolling me all along. There's no way that you could honestly believe the nonsense you've been saying. Congratulations. Well-done. You got me.

 

Same question as before. It's already as specific as it needs to be:

The cited data comes from 20 years ago and is sensitive to technology. Do you think the advancement of technology over the past 20 years should factor into whether or not the data is relevant today?

Yep, I think it's basic too, and that's why it's so puzzling that this basic concept is continually disregarded.

 

What cited data?

Cited by who, what, where, what kind of technology? What do you even mean by "technology"? Is technology an invention or a method of doing things? can thoughts be tecnology? Relevant to what? Do androids dream of electric sheep? If wekko had sex with an electric sheep in his dream can he go to jail for criminal bestiality?

You have to define terms if you want to pretend like youre internet Perry Mason doing a cross examination or deposition - you haven'd done this.

Because you try to apply it and pretend like the same statement didn't also apply in the past or somehow applied differently.

It did not and you haven't shown otherwise.

 

Ifs and cans don't equal a radically different market. Again, you are relying on assumptions instead of data.

At any point did he say "Raise the minimum wage to $10.10 in 2014"? Of course not, the details are in the writeup, and I provided the previous writeup the White House did in 2013, which specifically said that the minimum wage would be stepped up in increments, then indexed to inflation. I don't see any place where Obama has called for an overnight increase of 40% to the minimum wage.

Only if the grocery store was willing to invest in additional labor to provide the additional level of service, which they apparently weren't. They waited until they could provide a higher level of service with the SAME staffing levels before they invested in the self-checkout infrastructure. Do you have any data which shows that the grocery stores were concerned about and ready to increase staffing levels, but chose the self-checkout lanes instead? I thought not.

"Common sense" is a crutch for people who don't have data to support their contentions. You have no data, therefore, are reduced to using the "common sense" or "everyone knows" arguments that are so prevalent on Fox "News." You're obviously intelligent, but are choosing to believe unsupported assertions over the relevant data which happens to show the opposite of what your intuition or "common sense" says.

Data>Common sense

 

Ya know.

I'm getting a real CSN Updates feel to this thread.

 

Too bad it's unlike the real CSN and nobody would have to read it.

 

Almost Everything You Have Been Told About The Minimum Wage Is False

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2014/01/30/almost-everything-you-have-been-told-about-the-minimum-wage-is-false/

 

Ereythang. I await Mr Writer's analysis of productivity levels of the 1%. *smirk*

 

Did you not read the article? "The BLS data show that in 2011 labor productivity gains in the food service industry were nonexistent (that is, equal to 0 percent). In 2012, it was slightly worse; labor productivity in the food service sector dropped by 0.1 percent. In limited service restaurants, where minimum wage workers are likely to be concentrated, labor productivity fell by 2 percent in 2012 while business owners saw their unit labor costs rise by 2.8 percent. Over the past few years, these workers, as a group, not only have not earned a raise, but they are getting paid more for doing less."

 

I doesn't sound like you really understood it if indeed you read it. That's the problem with the copy and paste wingnut bots, an inability to analyze and interpret what they're posting.

 

Obama is a satanist.

Christians all around the world are appalled at his behavior, I mean...how dare he try and raise minimum wage. What would jeebus do!?!?!?!?

 

Labor productivity gains may indeed have been minimal (I haven't dived into the numbers), but the entire article completely ignores the reason that the minimum wage should be raised: to keep up with inflation.

 

Congrats to hundreds of thousands of poor workers who got an increase in their minimum wages. Obama signed the bill today.

With the Earned Income Credit this allows a family of four to get above the poverty level.

The government is spending $250 billion per year on social welfare programs for the working poor, a subsidy for low paying businesses, including the biggest i.e Walmart. 30 states have bills to raise the minimum wage and it is very popular with the public. (Info from the Sec of Labor and Ron Unz a conservative and a former publisher of the American Conservative Magazine. ) per the Chris Hayes show tonight.

Per Unz Walmart could pay a minimum of $12/hr and it would cost the average W Mart shopper $12/yr.

This could end a lot of day to day suffering by millions of our fellow Americans. A great day.

Looks like the tide is turning against the Ayn Rand market fundie types.

 

hundreds of thousands? Are you aware who is impacted by this? a tiny sliver of federal government contracts

 

This took me about 33 seconds to find brahdaddy.

In fairness, I am a bit of a Boolean Assassin.

Try.

Harder.

Next.

Time.

 

MSNBC is a bit more careful with facts than he might be used to.

 

Good. It is nonsensical that the minimum wage is below the poverty line. Look at Wall Mart, the owners are billionaires, some born into that fortune, yet those working for them, earning that money can't feed there families. Such a joke,

 

total fail, Sam. You lost me at "the White House believes". It's their pathetic estimate that is meant to deceive America. Knowing them, it's probably 250,000 jobs over a 30 year time period, cumulative.

you're going to need to do a little better than citing a biased white house advisor