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The WWE/Pro Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by stthomsfinest, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Voice of Aus

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    Damn,did anyone see the video that wwe posted up just before on YouTube? it was a cm punk Lego entrance video to someone else's music (can't remember who as I wasn't paying much attanetion), it was a massive troll by wwe and now have deleted it and the comments were funny from people saying HES BACK to f this and f that
     
  2. K-Low_4_Prez

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    I thought WWE disabled comments on all their videos?
     
  3. Voice of Aus

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    lol maybe they just took it off that video for the troll, i cant beleive me why didnt i print screen and save the video, it was a massive troll
     
  4. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    Not good for the product? First of all, the Cena booing started a long time ago. Can't give you an exact date, but it's not like it JUST started. And McMahon doesn't seem to have lost any money even though the main guy is getting booed.

    You DO realize that the audience has skewed majorly towards children and even women? It's not the "males 18-49" that's targeted in buying Cena gear, but the kids and the women. And occasionally some guys buy Cena's gear too.

    If this was the NBA or NFL or something that's not entertainment, then continuous booing of your top guy can be interpreted as bad. But people are still entertained by Cena, regardless if they like him or not.

    Orton gets heat from the crowd during his promos, but not from his matches, I'll grant you that. His match with Cena at the RR was a borefest, but that's because we've seen it 463457 times before. It's unfortunate that creative probably won't let him do punts anymore, because of the whole PG thing. People still boo him. And the women still cheer his body. lol

    You're stuck in a line of linear thinking, in that heels have to be booed and faces cheered. When Punk was a heel, people loved to cheer for him because he was that damn good in the ring. And like the Cena example, he's a face but he gets booed often. That doesn't detract from the overall effectiveness of their characters and the product, imo. I, as a viewer, could care less if faces or heels get the wrong reaction. It just shows me that the people care about the characters enough to show emotion. Unfortunately, for guys like Batista, he will be trying to promote Guardians of the Galaxy soon, so being booed isn't so great, lol.

    Lol I also love how you can't read, or have the hardest time interpreting basic English. I said that Titus might finally be getting a push and / or that he is getting into Singles competition. I never made the assumption that he was for sure getting a push. There would be no reason to change aspects of his character if everything was staying the same.


    Finally, if it was the "Breakfast Club" above all else, why give Kofi a win over Orton? Why put the belt on Langston instead of another white wrestler?
     
  5. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Mysterious Q makes ROW worth watching by himself! Him and the womens division impressed me the most.
     
  6. Beavis Stiffler

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    Since Booker T has connections with the WWE, maybe he would make R.O.W. a developmental promotion. Reality Of Wrestling is kinda like NXT on the same level. If they can get more talent, they can probably be better than NXT.
     
  7. K-Low_4_Prez

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    ^The USO's actually came out of Bookers school, and he said that one of the guys in ROW who has only been working 2 years just had a WWE tryout. I could definitely see some of his guys getting into the WWE but they would still have to go to NXT to start.

    If anybody is interested this is a new wrestling podcast and they actually talk a lot about ROW with Booker. He says he wants it to be bigger than an independent promotion, and you can tell he is all about letting the young guys do the work. He brings in WWE guys like RVD and the USO's but he makes sure they just make appearances so they don't outshine the young guys in the ring.

    In the second podcast RVD talks about how when he went there it changed his perception of what independent wrestling can be in todays day in age.
     
  8. HardenWay

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    WWE's demographic is not kids. Go breakdown the numbers they get in the states, there key demo is still males 16-24. WWE and Cena are scared a heel turn will alienate the fanbase that buys his merch.

    Everything you say about Cena applied to Hulk Hogan. He was a babyface from about 82 till 1996. Just because a babyface is over, doesn't mean it is an argument against a heel turn. It just means a heel turn would generate more heat.

    Then like The Rock when he regains credibility not only will the kids love him the entire audience will love him.

    There is MONEY in a John Cena heel turn...heat draws money. The kids who love him will no HATE him, then whoever goes against him will be OVER. Kids will pay (or their parents will) to see a babyface kicks Cena's ass. Then when he turns babyface again he is a bigger hero than ever.

    It is the right wrestling move to make...problem is the WWE is not wrestling.
     
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  9. sealclubber1016

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    I agree completely, considering the Hogan heel turn is what caused his company to become the number 2 wrestling promotion for a while, you would think Vince would appreciate that.

    A Cena heel turn would get anybody over, but Vince has a safe product and no competition to potentially overthrow him so there is no need to risk anything. If Cena were to turn on Bryan right now it would be the most over feud in years.
     
  10. HardenWay

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    The heel turn helped make WCW #1 promotion. 1996 I think was the year the WWF actually lost money.
     
  11. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    They would have made the heel turn happen a long time ago if they thought there was money to be had.

    If the key demo is males 16-34, then that category is buying other wrestlers' gear. There's enough interest, still, that whenever Cena releases a new shirt, 8-15 still buys his stuff.

    Plus, the whole "Hustle. Loyalty. Respect." and "Rise above Hate" resonates very well with current events, like bullying / cyber-bullying in school.
     
  12. Kam

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    The heel turn in 96 and the nwo made them number 1. It was hogans creative control clause that tore down the company.
     
  13. kingdragon22

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    the rumors say that he is close to signing, and the creative plans for him, is to become the raw general manger.

    a wrestlemania battle with the undertaker, is a long shot.

    http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...lanning-to-make-sting-the-raw-general-manager

    maybe he can be in someone corner or face his old tag team, and new hall of fame member, the ultimate warrior, instead of the warrior vs rayback plans.


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  14. kingdragon22

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    With their secound tweet(the first was to Denver), after winning the Super Bowl, the Seattle Seahawks tweeted Daniel bryan.

    He's getting recognition in mainstream media, and he's the most over superstar since the attitude era.

    Btw, wwe retweeted it, so they are aware of this.
    Let's see if they will be able to do something with his growing popularity.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Seahawks/status/430174488420839425?screen_name=Seahawks
     
  15. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    Bryan should start off Raw tonight by coming out dressed in Seahawk attire, a la Cena's thugonomics days.
     
  16. Carl Herrera

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    Seahawks GM, who looks kind of like Bart Ennis:

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    If there is one thing that the WWE loves, it's "crossover appeal."

    The company seems to have an inferiority complex about pro-wrestling and think of it as a b*stard child entertainment product. The WWE brought back the Rock, Lesnar and now Batista on lucrative deals probably because they got into movies and MMA. The WWE also loves its celebrity guest hosts and guest wrestlers-- from Drew Carey to Karl Malone/Dennis Rodman.

    It's as if wrestlers who are just good at wrestling and popular with wrestling fans are somewhat less good.

    So, I wonder if the best way for Daniel Bryan (or CM Punk) to really get to the next level is to get famous outside of wrestling. Get in tight with the Seahawks. Hang out with Richard Sherman or Russell Wilson and have TMZ "happen to run into them." Do a movie. Enter Dancing with the Stars, whatever.
     
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  17. Scolalist

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    I think Daniel Bryan's popularity and longevity are results of what he does in the ring and the fact that he is the most genuinely nice guy since Mick Foley doesn't hurt either. He should not change a thing as he is this decades Rey Mysterio with a much more extensive move set and an intensity Rey Mysterio could never achieve
     
  18. K-Low_4_Prez

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    You take that back! Rey is the best luchador ever!

    You can say he is better than Rey when he wins the royal rumble... oh wait! :p
     
  19. Kam

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    Rey (stole) my stereo sucks.
     
  20. macalu

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    wow, that looked like a botched back flip off the cage. road dog was no where close enough to catch him.
     

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