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Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by stthomsfinest, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. Chuck 4

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    I think it was "Cheat to Win," which I found hilarious because he was a good heel.
     
  2. Chuck 4

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    You're ruining the narrative that everything has to be racist, darn it!
     
  3. Voice of Aus

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    In conclusion "breckfest club rules" and if you don't like it it doesn't matter. You can boo cena for the last 5 years but because he is firmly in the club it doesn't matter.

    Bryan will never be in the club so it doesn't matter how many yes chants he gets it doesn't matter.

    And no I don't feel bad for cm punk at all, he is a hypiric and a massive d-bag for the way he went out, all he cared about was himself, when he was climbing up the ladder people like Jeff hardy put him over when he was on the way out big time and now instead of putting say a reigns over or a kosi Kingston or whoever he just does the selfish thing and leaves! I remember listening to podcasts from punk speaking on this matter

    Also he thinks he's the "voice of the voiceless" GTFO, you hypicritc I'm not happy your gone you made wwe better but all these people who are feeling sorry for you and saying the wwe are gonna change need to wake up.
    BRECKFEST CLUB > any crowd reaction or opinion
     
  4. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    Agreed.

    But even if you look at the roster of black men WWE has on its roster - Truth, Titus, Young, Woods, Langston - all of them have flaws. Truth can't cut a promo without relying on the use of "What's up," Titus' in-ring skills are suspect, Young and Woods haven't shown the ability to cut a promo, and Langston is already the IC champ, but he can't cut a promo either.

    On the other hand, you have Bray Wyatt, Orton, Cena, Ambrose who all bring some sort of emotion to the crowd. Good or bad.

    Apparently Titus turned heel by attacking Young recently, so maybe Titus is getting a push / FINALLY getting into singles competition.
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    1. Honestly, I don't get people who seriously hate Cena. You can like or dislike his in ring work, but the guy honestly works very hard and draws a lot of money for the company. So, I totally see why the company brass loves the guy. He also does a good job on the mic when needed-- He was really clever in Seattle with Daniel Bryan "interview" when the crowd wouldn't stop chanting Bryan's name when they were doing the Cena-Orton confrontation for the title unification match.

    It's hard to objectively argue that Cena hasn't earned everything that he gets.

    2. As for CM Punk: Talented guy and hard working, but probably a pain in the ass to deal with at work. Not sure if why anyone is angry on his behalf. He didn't agree with the company and decided to part ways. Creative differences. I don't see how the WWE "did CM Punk dirty."
     
  6. The Drake

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    I don't think anyone really dislikes Cena so much as how he's used (i.e. same character for the better part of 10 years, as well as the all-roads-lead-to-Cena brand of storytelling that's been going on almost as long).
     
  7. Carl Herrera

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    Well, he used to rap and doesn't do it any more, so there's some character development. :) I kind of get why they do it, though. If the way they use Cena has been selling tickets, per per view and merchandise all these years, why change?
     
  8. The Drake

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    Oh yeah from a business perspective, I totally get it. Still though, as a fan I'm uh...not a fan.
     
  9. K-Low_4_Prez

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    So who's staying up late tonight to watch Booker T's Reality of Wrestling TV Debut? Im kind of excited, I have watched a couple matches online and they seem legit...

    Its on the Kube at 2:00 AM... maybe if enough people watch they can get a better freaking time slot!!
     
  10. Beavis Stiffler

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    I will watch this. It brings back memories of Paul Boesch's Houston Wrestling program. The good thing is it's not on Comcast SportsNet or half the town can't watch it.
     
  11. Voice of Aus

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    when your top baby face (Cena) is getting booed at every house show or live taping that's not a good thing some idiots say any reaction is a good reaction but when it's your no.1 guy that's not good for the product.

    Also you said orten gets a reaction from the crowd, since when? The last time his character was actually getting ANY type of response was the legend killer character.

    Also right now bray gets the wrong reaction, wwe has booked him as a heal yet he gets cheered louder than cena (upcoming feud) and would actually be one of the top superstars in getting cheered as he is a freakin heal.

    Lol I also love how you guys continually give the wwe credit like saying finally X wrestler is going to get a push, don't give them credit ever, breckfest club then everyone else
     
  12. Carl Herrera

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    I think Cena is doing fine for the company. He is still driving TV, pay per view, merchandise numbers-- these numbers dipped significantly when he was injured last year. He also has enough of a sense of humor to deal with the "Let's go Cena! Cena sucks!" dynamic at the house shows.

    The thing is, the wrestling fans are just a divided lot and it's probably not possible for the WWE to cover all the bases. The best they can do is to try to maximize their income. There are things that they can do MUCH better but something they cannot avoid. Some fans are just gonna cheer for their heels because they are cool or because they are former independent wrestlers that the fans loved. The kids are gonna love Cena and the smarks are gonna hate him.

    Anyway, I wish there was a legitimate competent competitor to the WWE. It would make for a far more interesting market place. Imagine there was only one company making all the TV sitcoms. I doubt such a company would do much innovative stuff, either.
     
  13. HardenWay

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    Thoughts on AAA coming to America? Robert Rodriguez will be involved as well as Konnan off course.

    Also it looks more and more likely that Jeff Jarrett will be starting up a new promotion. He is being tight lipped, but keeps dropping hints.

    The best way to do it is turn him heel, then back to babyface. He will get credibility and respect from the older fans who are tired of his act, and he will just become an even bigger babyface. Hogan turned heel, turned back to babyface and in 2002 the fans actually refused to boo him. Sgt. Slaughter turned on his Country, then turned babyface again and has been a hero ever since.

    If he does that, he can spark the business because those who love him will have pure hate. I believe Cena is insecure and he isn't a true worker. A true worker would see the money in a heel turn and how it can change there business.
     
  14. Voice of Aus

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    Just looked it up and wwe has a raw on march 3 in chicargo, without advertising punk being there. That could be a fun show
     
  15. K-Low_4_Prez

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    The thing is, he doesn't need the older fans to like him. As long as Cena has the kids he is exactly what the WWE wants. If you walked into an elementary school you would see a John Cena backpack or t-shirt on half the kids.

    I don't have any problems with John being the good guy, he (more than any other superstar) is supposed to be a role model. Cena deserves his spot atop the company because he is the demographics favorite guy. We tend to want them to push towards more of what the older fans would want but you have to realize their demographic isn't 18-35 anymore, its like 8-15.

    I think the biggest problem with him right now is just him and Randy Orton are not fun to watch together. also the fans at the events just like booing people I have noticed, hell they would boo Stone Cold if he stayed long enough. lol
     
  16. DorianTurk

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    Its gonna get real on March 3rd. Also, depending on where Raw is this Monday, can get a little testy as well. If the crowd voices its opinion w/ DBry and Punk then wow…maybe some "people power" type stuff may happen lol they already re-wrote everything so who knows what can happen now
     
  17. K-Low_4_Prez

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    What do y'all think about the Sting rumors? I think its actually going to happen this time!
     
  18. DorianTurk

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    Man I hope so. Although it maybe a little too late for him to have a "great" match per se but regardless it will be entertaining to have him around to feud w/ some people in the E
     
  19. sealclubber1016

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    Great matches are more about good choreography than 2 talented people. If they can actually build up one of their more gifted workers as a heel (Ziggler is the first to come to mind) he can have one more great match ala Taker, who hasn't really been able to wrestle in a high level in a while, yet still manages to work great matches every year, even with a mediocre performer like Triple H.

    As a kid I was a huge Sting fan back in the early 90s' (he was my John Cena) when he still had the bright colors, It seems I was one of the few people who liked Crow Sting less, but it was a brillant angle. This deal will obviously be more about DVD's and merchandise as the face of WCW, but Sting appearing on Raw has been a dream long denied, so even now I would still be excited.
     
  20. mario_v

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    Had no idea about this until now. I Just set my dvr to record.
     

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