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How long will the Lin/Bev rollercoaster rage on

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BonziWellsGOAT, Jan 30, 2014.

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Will the Lin/Bev game to game kneejerks end?

Poll closed Mar 1, 2014.
  1. Yes, as long as we win

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    20.0%
  2. No, not until one is off the team

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  3. Not until the Sun burns out and life on Earth dies.

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  1. jms99

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    Many LOFs are actually LOHs, and vice versa. That's what makes some threads extreme. And people don't get it. If you see someone praising Lin too much, in an exaggerated way, the post is most certainly made by an LOH.

    There have been entire conversations with one LOH praising Lin excessively, and an LOF saying racist stuff about Lin, all in disguise to make LOHs look bad.. That's where the crazy comes from.
     
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    I'm not an expert on rating men's appearances but Jeremy had millions of girls riding his linsanity, and he's making friends wherever he's at. He's just polarizing though, being Asian American and devout Christian, he gets a billion people to love/hate him, even though he's just the same guy he always was.

    People like Chandler, but they stop at that. There's no diehard Chandler fans who ride him, and nobody hates on him either. He just seems like a nice guy and we let him be because really nobody is really that passionate about his game. Sorta like Asik last year too.
     
  3. jms99

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    THAT IS NOT TRUE AT ALL.

    1. even his first year at harvard, Lin wasn't playing that well. That gives you an idea of about where he was his senior year of high school and what people saw in him and how he played against college level competition.
    2. If Lin were BLACK, he would NOT be seen as "athletic," "talented" etc. Lin looked slow. He's no Yi Jianlian. That's why Yi was drafted so high. Because people looked at him and thought "He's athletic."
    3. People who finish four years, Udonis Haslem, Brad Miller, Ben Wallace (all undrafted) seem like they have less potential sometimes. It kind of makes sense why though it isn't right every time.
    4. Look at Gilbert Arenas and his college stats. Tell me why few were calling him Talented Athletic and praising his abilities. He was black, right? There are SCORES of black players that have produced in college that don't get drafted high. For whatever reasons. There are MANY that don't get drafted, play overseas, or QUIT basketball.
    5. Go watch HOOP DREAMS.

    Conclusion. We know that what you say is FALSE. That People that look like Yi Jian Lian, no matter what race they are, look athletic and this will always look good to scouts. Is it racism? No. Is it discrimination? Yes, people discriminate based on looks. People will discriminate against someone who went to a division II school, someone who went to an IVY league school, and someone who finished all 4 years of college. But is it real discrimination? Or is it just simply that you have to take a lot of different factors into consideration and as a team make a somewhat RANDOM choice on who to draft or who to give a scholarship to?

    There are plenty of black players that LOOK unathletic but are athletic. And the way many people describe them is "deceptively athletic." Plenty of black players who are fit and quick are called unathletic.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1813378-how-stephen-curry-is-re-defining-the-point-guard-position-entering-2013-14
     
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    Lol, but then again A black dude from Toronto became the most hyped propect since Ler'bon James
     
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    While I'm sure this is fascinating speculation, you have your terms wrong. People doing that are called trolls, not LOF or LOH.
     
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    To answer the OPs question, no longer than 2015. Lin, due to his contract, is not long for this team, and im starting to think Bev is a situational defender.
     
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    Yes it's one factor - we all get that - but do you think he would be anywhere near as popular if he hadn't broken out in such a dramatic fashion in NY? If he was a career bench player? Well, all you have to do is look at his popularity before and after NY - pretty freaking dramatic difference - and for sure not just Asian/Asian American people jumped on board. Many people across the globe became fans as a result of that run.
     
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    Have a look at some of these plays and tell me again how unathletic and slow he looked in college. (hopefully this works - first time trying to post vid) No, he's not a freak athlete like DRose, but certainly no slouch.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hmm - guess it didn't work:confused:
    well, here's the link anyways.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVVzGm8SbOM
     
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    Well, you don't take it full court on UConn and dunk in traffic with 2 hands at a generous 6'3" with average wingspan. Just doesn't happen - so the eye test deceiveth.
     
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    fixed!
     
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    No, Jeremy has a huge following because he is a GREAT Asian.

    Jeremy is better than a great basketball player because he is a good person. He's really humble and only has positive things to say about his teammates and organization. He's constantly posting scripture, and while that was a big focus of hate for Tebow since a lot of people doubted he was sincere, nobody gives Jeremy crap for that because he's so self-effacing and earnest.

    And to the point about everyone's former favorite Asian, people loved Yao because he was dominant but he was also a class act. Same with Hakeem. We had pillars of virtue in Houston and it was a great thing. It will never be the same with Dwight. Houston fans love nice guys like Shane Battie, the Jet, Luis Scola, Chandler and Jeremy.
     
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    http://www.emptythebench.com/2010/03/02/stephen-curry-is-silencing-the-doubters/

    it's perfectly reasonable to have believed that players like Lin or Curry would not be successful in the league. Part of the reason they both made the transition was because they both improved so much since college. That is something that you can't really predict.
     
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    Fair enough. Some people are later bloomers than others athletically and skill wise.
     
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    I think you do dunk if you're an unathletic 6'3". Nobody is saying Lin is unathletic compared to the average human being.
     
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    I would say this is all true and add that Lin probably has a bigger following than Yao because people in general can relate to him more. eg, he's actually a normal sized human being.:grin:
     
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    Not with 2 hands in traffic multiple times. Show me some highlights of other college or pro players at his height that you consider unathletic dunking with 2 hands in traffic.
     
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    And no players with arms down to their knees!:grin:
     

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