Another Man In Florida ‘Stood His Ground’, Chasing and Killing Youth In Hoodie

Eh, it sounds more like a gross exxqgeration of the Zimmermann case. Based on what you quoted, I'll be surprised if the prosecution has any trounble with it. In Zimmermann's case, he had a plausible reason for following someone as a neighborhood watchman, where this is just some guy. Zimmerman finally encountered Martin is a public space, whereas this guy jumped a fence into someone's property. In the Zimmerman case, there were signs of struggle, and here just a guy with his pants falling down. I was hoping for a conviction on Zimmerman, but this case as told doesn't sound like it even has the gray areas that the Zimmerman case did.

 

biased article.

hopefully everybody has learned from the Trayvon Martin incident to not be duped by biased media like they were in the TM mess.

 

More details from another source about what happened. That article was pretty short.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/1...nd-shooting-burglar-dead-claims-self-defense/

 

How can anyone point to the Trayvon Martin case as some type of injustice? Did you not follow the facts of the case? The media reported lies in order to whip up the blacks in Florida (a swing state) and across the nation in an election year. Obama commented publicly on the case for that very reason. It was all a deception, and the media happily played along because the ratings were great. The deception was intended to help Obama politically in an election year.

The facts of the case came out and disproved all of the false media reports. What we learned is that Martin was kicked out of school for having burglary tools in his locker. He idolized crime and the gangster lifestyle on social media. He had a history of violence. He had drugs in his system. He was wandering aimlessly in a residential community, looking in windows (highly suspicious). He attacked Zimmerman and beat him to the point of threatening his life. Stand your ground was not used by the defense -- a simple self defense argument was used. And the jury, of mixed racial composition, acquitted Zimmerman. Those are the facts -- anyone who cites the Zimmerman case as an injustice is just ignorant to the facts.

 

Please explain the facts. There is Black Kid who was dead. There weren't a lot of facts at all.

 

What you have said are indeed not the facts of the case. There has no been proof that the media reported anything to whip up blacks in a swing state. Zilch, zero. That's something you made up or believed after seeing some place else when they also didn't present any facts to back up that assertion.

It was never proven that he initated the attack on Zimmerman. The only thing that was shown is that the prosecution was not able to prove that Zimmerman started the physical confrontation. There is a difference.

The burglary tool claim is also not accurate. Or at least it's not more accurate than saying he was caught with an auto mechanic's tool. That is every bit as accurate as saying he was found with burglary tools. Apparently you were fooled by the conservative media reports about it being a burlgary tool.

You've shown you don't have a basis for attacking anyone else's grasp of facts.

 

Spot on. Many around here simply ignored what happened in the trial and still cling to their first impression biases because it fits their worldview better...

 

Oh lord, there is already a thread (more than one) for Zimmerman. I understand drawing parallels is inevitable in this thread, but let's not just re-litigate the Zimmerman case.

 

Speaking of clinging to your first impression biases because it fits your worldview better. :grin:

 

I was asking questions, and it just so happens I was 100% correct. There was aggression and TM had illegal drugs in his system.

 

Spot on. Many around here simply ignored what happened in the trial and still cling to their first impression biases because it fits their worldview better...

 

Mkay. So there was no evidence he got aggressive, was high on crack, lean or some other drug, was casing homes in the neighborhood, was verbally threatening others, or was running like he just stole something but you were still 100% correct. That is precisely the type of fact based, logical statements we're used to from you. We appreciate your surrender and capitulation to the facts. Do better next time hiding your bias to fit your worldview. Thanks.

 

George Zimmerman never used 'stand your ground' . It was never argued by his lawyers and it had nothing to do with anything.

 

From him? How about the whole damn nutbag GOP

 

If I recall correctly, the argument was that it contributed to the long delay in charging Zimmerman.

 

exactly. You've got people here who didn't even pay attention to the basics of the case.

 

What, you mean the media didn't jump the gun and claim Zimmerman was a white supremacist while glorifying Martin as a 10 year old upstanding African American angel?

I must have remembered it wrong then.

 

Stand your ground means you don't have to flee from the threat if fleeing from the threat makes you more vulnerable. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

No, they didn't. The media used the public shots of Zimmerman which were him in the prison jump suit. They used the shots of Martin provided by the family. If you're able to prove that somehow means a premeditated attempt to stir up blacks in a swing state, feel free to have it.

Nothing has proven that so far.

What was proven is that white supremacists used photos of someone who wasn't Trayvon Martin to try and tarnish his reputation, and many conservative sites bought it, and made memes of the picture and they were circulated around and posted on this site in the Trayvon Martin thread.