Well bud, when you get in to your older years and have the injuries that Dre has, you lose that burn. I insult because my previous ones don't work. You still keep posting non-sense and lack an opinion with substance.
Oh wow. 1. The only time Schaub had a "good defense" the defensive captain got hurt for the season and the defense failed the team in the playoffs. 2. Yates is nowhere near an average QB, he's not even a good QB. He's a 3rd string QB at best. 3. Ben Roethlisberger was just awful the first time the Steelers won the SB with him at QB.....teams can win with defense, it's been proven time and time again. In fact, it might get proven again in 4 days.
Russel Wilson is a good quarterback. Big Ben is clutch in the playoffs. Yates was pretty game manager/average. Didn't make too many mistakes and rode the defense. Sorry, but quarterbacks who make good throws in crunch time are not average. They are good.
1. No, he's not, he's a game manager with wheels. So long as you don't need anything from him, he can protect the ball and let the defense win the game for you. 2. Ben was absolutely garbage in the first SB win. 3. Yates was/is terrible The fact that you don't realize that kills any credibility you might have when it comes to player evaluation.
Seriously though, arguing that TJ Yates is pretty good or average is like saying Mark Sanchez used to be a great QB.
So how can you say that when I say Brees and Rodgers are no different than Flacco...? Brees put up 732 yards 8 TDs and 0 ints during his super bowl run in 3 games. Rodgers put up 1094 yards 9 TDs and 2 ints during his super bowl run in 4 games. Flacco put up 1104 yards 11 TDs and 0 ints during his super bowl run in 4 games. Beat Manning, Brady, and a top notch defense in San Francisco. And that's why I say Brees and Rodgers are no different than Flacco and both of those QBs have better offensive weapons than Flacco and better offensive play callers. Brees and Rodgers carry their teams to the playoffs but other than their super bowl runs they go home in the playoffs early. And Baltimore didn't lose to New England because of Flacco the year before last. He out played Brady that time as well. As a team _ Baltimore has been doing better with Flacco than Green Bay and New Orleans have been doing with Rodgers and Brees. And Flacco isn't a great QB but he steps up and players make plays around him when the playoffs come around. Primetime has my comment in his signature about Rodgers, Brees, and Flacco but he sees everything in a vacuum so he doesn't have the insight and open thinking to understand what I mean. And the numbers say I'm right.
Then put me on ignore and I disappear. It's that simple. Trust me I'll be fine without you reading my post.
If Brees Flacco and Rodgers had never played football before or after those small samples and if I hadn't actually watched how it all happened then I might be inclined to agree. Unfortunately, Every single season Rodgers has had, he's been vastly superior to the best season Flacco has ever had and every season since Brees has been with the Saints has been vastly superior to the best Flacco has ever done so I can't say that they are "no different". Rodgers or Brees at their worst are WAY better than Flacco at his best.
Damn look where Clowney is on this list: ESPN recently released its list of the Ultimate 300 college recruits since the year 2006. According to ESPN.com, a player’s impact and production on the collegiate level was used to compile the rankings. For the Ultimate ESPN 300 ranking, we incorporated both the prospect’s grade and projection out of high school with his actual college impact and production. In the interest of objectivity, we also included prospects that were not included in our rankings. However, we did not include players we did not evaluate in high school, so there are notable names left off this list, like Michael Crabtree. Below is a list of the top 25 recruits from ESPN. 1. DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina 2. QB Tim Tebow, Florida 3. CB Eric Berry, Tennessee 4. CB Patrick Peterson, LSU 5. WR A.J. Green, Georgia 6. WR Julio Jones, Alabama 7. OLB Mant Te’o, Notre Dame 8. RB Trent Richardson, Alabama 9. QB Andrew Luck, Stanford 10. QB Matt Barkley, USC 11. OT Andre Smith, Alabama 12. DE Da’Quan Bowers, Clemson 13. WR Percy Harvin, Florida 14. WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson 15. QB Matthew Stafford, Georgia 16. CB Dre Kirpatrick, Alabama 17. QB Jameis Winston, Florida State 18. S Taylor Mays, USC 19. DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma 20. RB C.J. Spiller, Clemson 21. RB LeSean McCoy, Miami 22. QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M 23. QB Aaron Murray, Georgia 24. ATH Anthony Barr, UCLA 25. RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia
Yates was pretty average. My player evaluation is as good as any in this forum which isn't saying much. Because at the end of the day, I don't know if my favorite prospect will be good or not.
You're speaking in the hypothetical and you're also speaking of REGULAR SEASON STATISTICS. I already said Brees and Rodgers carry their teams to the playoffs in the regular season but come playoffs the don't. They don't put up those GREAT REGULAR SEASON numbers you speak of continuously in the playoffs to help carry their teams deep in the playoffs in to more than one super bowl appearance. And Flacco has a better playoff record than both. 9-4 (3 more wins than Brees _ 4 more than Schaub). I'm actually helping make your point that you don't need a great QB to compete for a super bowl because it's a team game where coaching plays a bigger role than any other sport. Brees and Rodgers may be great but Flacco proves that you don't have to have a great QB. So does Russell and Kaepernick.
Which just goes to show you can be #1 in college and absolutely fall flat on your face in the NFL. Clowney's name at the top of that list isn't impressive in terms of his NFL future.
Well that's really more a "just QB's" kind of thing, but it does go to show you that what matters most are the more fundamental aspects of prospects. Size, strength, speed, technique all matter more than stats at the college level.
Also not in the league. This list doesn't guarantee NFL stardom. Do you even know what you are debating about at this point?
