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Teddy Bridgewater or Bust

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Old Man Rock, Dec 3, 2013.

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  1. ktbballplaya

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    I think the fact this thread is at 140 pages is a good indicator thay majority texan fans want him as the QB
     
  2. endoftheworld

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    Have you taken a look at the previous 2-3 playoff games they played in???
     
  3. Major

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    Why would you only look at one game? You realize you have to win a lot of other games to get to the Superbowl, right? And generally, the teams that get there have QBs playing pretty damn well week in and week out.
     
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    So you are saying now that they have to play great up until the SB to win the SB, but it doesn't take a great performance in the actual SB to win the SB? Cool story.

    Also, of those 10 only 5 of those SB winning teams had what actually are great QB's, so it clearly doesn't require a great QB to win the SB.

    Because I was responding to "Love the simpletons on here who think that it doesn't take great qb play to win (or at least be in position) a championships"

    I pointed out that it doesn't take great QB play to win a championship.
     
  5. Remii

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    Average Joe was playing against a great San Francisco defense... Who was Brees playing again...???
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    I don't see how that's relevant also I did say he had a pretty good performance.
     
  7. Hey Now!

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    Your entire premise is silly (teams don't automatically qualify for the Super Bowl; all of those teams relied on exceptional QB play to advance in the postseason) - but specifically: Joe Flacco's MVP-winning Super Bowl performance was "sort of" great? There are 32 teams in the NFL that would line up around the block to have a QB go 3/0 with a 8.7 YPA and QBR of 124.2. He was nearly flawless - and not just once but for four consecutive weeks.

    You cannot win a SB without your QB playing well. There is almost no recent evidence of a team winning 3-4 playoff games in a row with sub par QB play.
     
  8. Major

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    Except it does - because without great QB play, you don't generally get to a championship game in the first place.
     
  9. Nook

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    I tell you what.... when you can draft an entire defensive unit with the #1 pick, let me know. I would love to get the Seahawks or Niners defense with the #1 pick....

    Oh what, that is right..... that takes 11 players on the field, and no single defensive player has the impact that a QB does.
     
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    I would argue that the Ravens "relied" on a blown play by the Broncos safety on what should have been an easy interception on a hail mary pass and a pick 6 or they wouldn't have even made it to the AFCCG.

    QB play is just one small piece of the puzzle and not one that is more important than defense.
     
  11. Hey Now!

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    You're not playing for a championship without great QB play; not in today's NFL. The days of Trent Dilfer winning a championship are sooooo in the rear view mirror.

    Of the last 10 champions, all but Roethlisberger in '05 were either all-time great QBs, or QBs who went on all-time great postseason runs.
     
  12. Old Man Rock

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    Honestly I think we are the more lucky team but because Bridgewater played for a small college and has a thin frame people can't see he does things that Luck will never do and has more poise than Luck will ever possess.

    Give Luck the edge on size stronger arm and better college career but I have watched so much of Teddy B to see even with his smallish frame and less the best longball accuracy he will be something special.

    Bridgewater comes in without the pedigree but with the smarts, he runs better, has better footwork with less training, less coaching and less years in college. But he wins and performs in spite of it. His coach calls him a Savant and NFL Network analyst who's job is to dissect film agrees unabashedly.

    I think we are lucky but many can't see it because he played for Louisville and has a thin frame. And with all that said I think the kid isn't even close to hitting his ceiling and it might be scary how high it can be.
     
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    Except for all the times I pointed out that it has happened recently

    Except for when it happens.
     
  14. Old Man Rock

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    You shouldn't argue with Remii, he's all you got. :)
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    He still won two more games after that. And besides - didn't they score, like, 38 in that game, matching GOAT candidate PeePee Manning play for play before ousting Thomas Brady the following week? He threw 11 TDs and 0 INTs in four road games against the AFC's top 2 seeds and the NFC's top seed (IIRC) during last year's postseason. I think he's an exceedingly mediocre QB who the Ravens are going to regret resigning - but that was an all-time great run he went on last year.

    If your point is that the importance of QB play egregiously overshadows the importance of other aspects of the game, sure - but that's been true for a thousand decades. No team wins at a high level without some degree of competent offense, defense, special teams and/or luck.

    But the trend now, pretty firmly established, is that a great QB can cover-up flaws much quicker than a great anythingelse can.

    Except, we haven't seen a defense carry a less-than-great QB who didn't play out of his mind for three weeks to the SB in more than a decade. Other than last year, when has an all-time great QB not at least made the SB? Meanwhile, Seattle is a total anomaly this year; the best defensive team rarely makes the SB.
     
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    LOL, you don't know me very well. I don't care if literally everyone disagrees with me. Me being right has nothing to do with anyone else agreeing.
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    Please point out the last team that won a SB with their QB playing sub par in the postseason. And even the sub par SB performances that you're bravely clinging to - every one of them contains the QB making an incredibly decisive, game-winning play.

    Again, name the last mediocre QB who passively rode his running game/defense/special teams/luck to a championship. Roethlisberger in '05, off the top of my head (but I'd have to verify how he played in the playoffs). And before that, Brad Johnson. So, twice since 2002.
     
  18. Old Man Rock

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    Trust me I got that about you already. ;) On a side note my grandfather had a saying, "just because all the birds are going in one direction doesn't mean they are going the right away." He was right but he should have added usually it does.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Last year, Average Joe. Potentially this year with Russel Wilson.
     
  20. Remii

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    You can't preach defense WHICH YOU DO (just like I do) and discount Flacco's performance on the biggest stage of all against a great defense. And Flacco probably would have had even better numbers if they haven't had stopped the game because Baltimore was on the way to blowing San Francisco out.
     
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