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Barack's state of the union 2014: "Since I am incapable of working w/ congress, I'll play dictator"

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  1. mtbrays

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  2. Invisible Fan

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    Obama is mostly powerless especially as he heads toward lame duck season.

    Shifty uses of Executive signing orders has been standard procedure since Dub**** and Clinton.

    It's an empty threat he's brandishing to make the Republicans rightfully look obstructionist and hedging against possible political looming failures in immigration and budget reform.

    I <3 how Conservative/Republican supporters are crying a river full of crocodile tears about it since they generally support obstruction over compromise with the majority libtard party.
     
  3. Amiga

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    The man got to do what he got to do. I for one, think he did fairly well given the political environment. I hope the Republicans move back toward the center. They have been mostly negative, destructive and unproductive at the expense of progress for American.
     
  4. mc mark

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    Boy is that an understatement.
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    While pessimism will defines a lot of the public mood polling shows that many American's agree with Obama on several key issues while the opinions of Republicans are much worse. Obama definitely faces a steep challenge in his State of the Union but taking on Congress is probably an issue that won't hurt him in the polls.

    http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_new...-the-state-of-the-union?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1

    NBC News poll: Pessimism defines the state of the union

    As President Barack Obama enters his sixth year in the White House, 68 percent of Americans say the country is either stagnant or worse off since he took office, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

    Just 31 percent say the country is better off, and a deep pessimism continues to fuel the public's mood. Most respondents used words like “divided,” “troubled,” and “deteriorating” to describe the current state of the nation.

    On the eve of Tuesday’s State of the Union address, more than six-in-10 Americans believe that the nation is headed in the wrong direction and 70 percent are dissatisfied with the economy.

    It’s not just Obama under fire. A whopping 81 percent disapprove of Congress and twice as many Americans now hold negative views about the Republican Party as positive ones.

    Democratic pollster Fred Yang, whose firm conducted this survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff, compares these findings to the 1993 movie “Groundhog Day,” in which the protagonist finds himself living the same day over and over.

    “It seems like we’ve been re-living the same basic dynamics -- a public that is anxious, dissatisfied and dismayed -- in a continuous loop,” he said.

    But Yang adds that Obama’s upcoming State of the Union address is his administration’s “best chance to try to achieve a reset with a focus on the economy after last year’s glitches” with the health care law.

    Obama’s job rating stands at 43 percent

    Ahead of the president’s Tuesday speech, the NBC/WSJ poll finds 43 percent of adults approving of his job and 51 percent disapproving -- virtually unchanged from a month ago.
    Also, for the third-straight survey, those who view Obama negatively (44 percent) outnumber those who view him positively (42 percent).

    According to GOP pollster McInturff, the president’s net-negative personal rating makes it more challenging for him to boost his overall job-performance number.

    “His personal standing has taken a … hit that makes trying to restore your job approval very difficult.”

    In more tough numbers for the president, only a combined 40 percent say they are “optimistic and confident” or “satisfied and hopeful” about the president’s remaining time in office. By contrast, a combined 59 percent say they are “uncertain and wondering” or “pessimistic and worried.”

    And by a 39 percent to 31 percent margin, Americans believe the country is currently worse off compared with where it was when Obama first took office; 29 percent say it’s in the same place.

    Key Obama priorities enjoy majority support

    But there are other numbers in the poll suggesting a foundation on which the president can improve his standing.

    For one thing, a majority of respondents -- 51 percent -- say he has a clear agenda, versus 43 percent who believe he doesn’t.

    Additionally, many of the priorities Obama is expected to address in his State of the Union speech enjoy support from the public:

    63 percent say ensuring all children have access to preschool education should be a priority this year;

    59 percent say the same about closing tax loopholes benefiting corporations;

    And 51 percent say the same about increasing the minimum wage.

    And despite all the troubles associated with last fall’s health care rollout, 54 percent of respondents say fixing and keeping the law should be a priority, signaling a public that might want to move on from the partisan battles over the issue.

    That said, the poll still finds that the law is unpopular, with 34 percent viewing it as a good idea, compared with 48 percent seeing it as a bad idea -- virtually unchanged from last month.

    A public that’s sour on the economy

    Yet perhaps Obama’s biggest challenge will be addressing a public that remains sour about the economy and the state of American politics.

    Only 28 percent believe the country is headed in the right direction, while 63 percent say it’s on the wrong track.

    What’s more, 71 percent are dissatisfied with the state of the economy (although more than 60 percent say they’re satisfied with their own financial situation).

    And when respondents were asked which one or two words best describe the current state of the nation, the top answers were all negative: “divided” (37 percent), “troubled” (23 percent), and “deteriorating” (21 percent).

    Those answers were followed by “recovering” (19 percent), “broken” (14 percent), and “hopeful” (13 percent).

    And just 3 percent of all respondents picked “strong.”

    Congress’ job-approval rating: 13 percent

    That pessimism isn’t only directed at the White House.

    According to poll, just 13 percent approve of Congress’ job – 1 point off the all-time low in the poll – while 81 percent disapprove.

    The Republican Party’s favorable/unfavorable score stands at an upside-down 24 percent to 47 percent rating (versus the Democratic Party’s 37 percent to 40 percent favorable/unfavorable score).

    And a majority of Americans -- 51 percent -- say Republicans in Congress are too inflexible in their dealings with Obama, while 39 percent say the same of the president.
     
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    Another factor is that the Republicans are going to have at least three responses to the State of the Union showing how divided and fractious the opposition to Obama is.

    http://swampland.time.com/2014/01/2...ompeting-rebuttals-muddle-republican-message/

    [rquoter]But Congress has found a way to intrude even on this. Obama’s address will be followed by no fewer than three Republican rebuttals, which will (spoiler alert) pan the speech with varying degrees of contempt. These responses — not to mention the 530 or so separate email blasts that will begin flooding inboxes before Obama even finishes speaking — are meant to siphon attention on the one night the President is supposed to have it in full.

    At the same time, however, the triple rebuttal lays bare the challenges facing a fractured party. After consecutive losses to Obama and the disastrous government shutdown, the GOP’s factions are increasingly divided over tactics and message. The practice of responding to the sitting President dates back decades for both parties, but it wasn’t until the Obama era that Republican factions began jostling for postpresidential airtime. Instead of advancing the party’s ideas, the competing speeches wind up stepping on them.
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  7. Rashmon

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    bigtexx and fvsantiago: your invitation is in the mail

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    Join us in our brave new world. You'll love it. It's a way of life.

    Resistance is futile. You will know this...eventually.
     
  8. mc mark

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    The white zone is for loading and unloading only.
     
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    I don't ever remember this being done with Bush, Clinton, or anyone else. I remember news pundits talking about it, but not allowing the opposing party to give a direct rebuttal. I'm telling you, this is what leads many of us to believe that there's some hidden agenda and a level of disrespect towards this "uppity black man." I mean, how else would you explain the least productive Congress in the entire history of the U.S. It just physically could not all be about Obama's policies- no one is that bad, not Bush, Clinton, Warren G. Harding, etc. I can't figure out for the life of me what their deal is, except to be attention hounds when they never used to be.
     
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    The conservative spin machine is so crazy. My dad for some reason 2 years ago payed for an NRA membership. We don't own a gun and I really don't know why he sighed up, but he just payed for one year of membership. It is guaranteed he will get 2-3 letters from NRA, Texas rifleman association, or some other gun right group. Each on is filled with 5 pages rants and talking points. Also he gets his handy pocket sized constitution, every month. Around election times I think he may have gotten 100 letters. It's really creepy.
     
  11. CometsWin

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    A while back I was getting stuff from the Heritage Foundation. It basically read like FV Santiago in pamphlet form. It was disturbing yet funny.
     
  12. Invisible Fan

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    Or it could possibly be that Obama is a generation defining president who overtook both traditional party machines in his first election (even if he turned out to be a disappointment in that potential) on top of which the repubs has no legit intellectual counterweight against it.

    They should be scurred. Not because he's black but rather he has the celebrity power of a JFK.

    How strong they are politically is proof in the pudding this works.
     
  13. Dubious

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    Dario Franchitti couldn't get his car around the block if the engine was frozen up.
     
  14. bigtexxx

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    So true! With the engine being Obama's pea brain
     
  15. Baba Booey

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    I think you missed the analogy...
     
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    Wow, that's just...sad
     
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    Considering he is more educated than pretty much every person on this board it's funny to see how the people who oppose him are obviously smarter than him.
     
  18. Commodore

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    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/369607/great-caesars-ghost-kevin-d-williamson#!

     
  19. mc mark

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    Good Lord, the right is completely losing their ever lovin' minds.
     
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