I'd hope O'Brien is better at player analysis than Cosell considering his past analysis. If not, we'll probably end up sticking with Schaub who Cosell thinks is an excellent QB still.
That's been what I've said about Manziel all along. You probably just didn't notice because you were too busy talking up Bridgewater to notice. I say Manziel is more athletic than Bridgewater and you go nuts, angry that I insulted your deity. I've never thought Manziel is a legit NFL QB prospect, but that doesn't mean that he's not clearly more athletic than Bridgewater.
You couldn't spot the sun in the night if you tried. Cosell hasn't been wrong His Schaubs analysis wasn't wrong
So you think Schaub is still a very good QB? Cosell does. You think RG3 was a better pick than Luck? Cosell did. You don't have to defend people just because they said something that you agreed with.
I never got mad, I agree with you. Manziel is more athletic. I wouldn't say by whole tiers though. He is more athletic from what I have seen
If Schaub never threw those pick sixes we would be a completely different spot. Cosell never said that Schaub was a very good qb, he basically said that he serviceable All he said about RG3 was that he had more arm talent than Luck, which isn't wrong Luck as him beat like a drum in qb ability
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/27/richard-sherman-super-bowl-48-monday-morning-quarterback/6/ Gil Brandt on Manziel. A few league people raised their eyebrows when the godfather of the draft, Gil Brandt, put 6-0 Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel No. 1 on his first draft board. I asked Brandt why he did it. “I do have a tremendous belief in him,” Brandt said. “You are going to get 110% out of this guy every day of his life, every play of his life. If you don’t have a quarterback, and you want one, I believe this guy has a great chance to be good for a long time. This guy had an inferior team. And he beat Alabama, he beat Oklahoma. He’s down 29 to Duke in the last game of his college career, and he’s on the sidelines saying, ‘There is no way we are going to lose.’ This guy’s a better version of Fran Tarkenton.” About Manziel’s love of the parties, Brandt said, “He’s had a chance to do some things, at age 18, 19, 20 and 21, because of the financial backing of his grandfather, but the more I’ve looked into him, I just don’t believe it’s going to hold him back from being really good. The one thing coach [Tom] Landry told me a long time ago is you look for the good, not for the bad.” http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Breaking-down-Johnny-Football.html One of the most talked about college football players of the last decade has been Texas A&M star quarterback Johnny Manziel. During the 2012 season, Manziel won the Heisman Trophy after throwing for 3,706 yards and 26 touchdowns with a completion percentage of 68.0 percent. For an encore, Manziel improved in almost every statistical category in 2013, passing for 4,114 yards and 37 touchdowns with a completion percentage of 69.9 percent. Moving forward, the Manziel conversation will now border on whether or not the Texas A&M standout is worthy of a first round selection come May. I have watched nine tapes of Manziel from the last two seasons, three from 2012 and six from 2013. My conclusion is that Johnny Football is one hell of a player. Manziel lacks ideal quarterback size to play in the NFL, as he is listed at 6’1 – 210, but I’m not sure that is accurate. If I had to estimate, I’d say Manziel will measure 6004 -205 at February’s Combine. On tape, the dual-threat signal-caller looks as if he added 10-15 pounds between the 2012 and 2013 seasons. But that added weight cost him a bit of play speed. On 2012 tape I thought Manziel’s play speed was at worst 4.50. But in 2013 he looked closer to 4.60. But while Manziel may have lost a little speed, it’s worth noting that he is still extremely quick and may have the quickest feet I have ever seen on a quarterback. Manziel almost always lines up in the spread formation. There were only a handful of plays that I saw where he took a snap from under center. Texas A&M runs a read option offense and Manziel is excellent at running that particular scheme. He has a running back’s mentality when it comes to carrying the football and he is very elusive in the open field. He uses that quickness and elusiveness to keep plays alive on passing downs and is excellent at finding an open receiver and throwing with accuracy on the run. When Manziel is able to stay in the pocket, he has an excellent feel for pass rushers and does a very good job stepping up before his throws. He has a very compact, quick release and when he makes a decision, the ball is out of his hand almost instantly. While in the pocket, Manziel is calm and poised and shows he can go through a progression. He demonstrates the ability to look off a receiver and then come back to him and is also good at finding open secondary receivers. The one thing I really like about Manziel is his accuracy and ball placement. He has a number of completions where he threads the needle and can get the ball into a tight spot. For the most part, Manziel’s decision making is very good and he rarely forces a ball. On the Manziel tape I viewed from 2013, I only saw two interceptions that I would consider poor throws. On each of those plays, Manziel was throwing on the run and failed to read the backside safety coming over. He had some interceptions where his receiver dropped the pass and the defender notched the INT before the ball hit the ground. I wouldn’t say that Manziel has a canon for an arm, but his arm strength is solid enough. He can throw a tight ball with zip and can easily complete passes 45 - 50 yards down field. What makes Manziel so dangerous and what defenses have to account for is his ability to run if the pass isn’t there. Time after time the Aggies signal-caller opted to run, scrambling for ten or more yards. Overall, Manziel is unique. He is not for everyone. The team that drafts him has to have a plan and play to his strengths. He is not nor will he ever be a conventional pro style drop back passer. While Manziel lacks ideal NFL quarterback size, there are top quarterbacks in the league that also possess less than ideal size. Drew Brees is list as being 6’0, but he isn’t. Russell Wilson is under 5’11. If I had to compare Manziel to another NFL quarterback I would say he is part Wilson, part Brees and part Brett Favre. It obviously remains to be seen if he will have the success of those players. Manziel’s immaturity off the field is well documented and the team that drafts him has to be sure that he will buy into their program. The one thing I do know is that on game day, Manziel is as competitive a player as you will ever see. Scouts have told me that he has matured in the last year and his game preparation and leadership were much better in 2013 than in 2012. I think there is a lot of “special” to Manziel and he will be a very good NFL player. It would not surprise me to see him drafted in the top-five. He could very well be the first quarterback selected.
Fluff stuff, I respect his opinion though but it sounds like empty semantics though. Nothing on film to indicate NFL success, just throw back words
You kill your credibility every time you do this. I don't agree with the man, but you dismiss everyone who comes out saying something you don't agree with. You can't dismiss his piece as "Fluff stuff" then say you respect his opinion.
Didn't I just said I respect his opinion???? It was fluff for the most part. Nothing indicating deep analytic work
We'll try this again. You kill your credibility every time you do this. I don't agree with the man, but you dismiss everyone who comes out saying something you don't agree with. You can't dismiss his piece as "Fluff stuff" then say you respect his opinion.
Both or still early in their career. Luck only has him beat as far as durability at this point. But no way am I going to say Luck has a "healthy" RG3 beat like a drum when the kid just threw 100 interceptions in two playoff games.
Luck is also a better qb The redskins have a better run game and a more consistent o-line. Pretty sure Luck pulled his team out of the fire after nearly burning his team in one
Washington has the better run game because of RG3. We'll see what happens next year with a healthy RG3 and a new coach. But apparently you forgot about RG3's rookie year in which RG3 had Luck beat like a drum...
