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[ClutchFans] The numbers are clear: Patrick Beverley deserves to start over Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. RocketsFido

    RocketsFido Member

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    Trade them both.
     
  2. NotChandlerParsons

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    I still agree with it. I also think Bev v. Lin is the most inconsequential problem facing the Rockets right now. Seriously, on the list of our problems it is down near the very bottom.
     
  3. Zboy

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    Clutch did not say Beverley is the answer at the PG spot for this team to contend.

    He gave the numbers that clearly show that between Lin and Beverley and with the current Rockets lineup, Beverley should be starting. The eye tests confirm this.

    Your thread heading/question does not match what you are asking in your post.
     
  4. roxfan123

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    I am saying he should not point out the obvious, rather should be more thorough with the situation.
     
  5. Zboy

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    It must not be that obvious because clearly a whole lot of folks are not getting it.

    See post #17 in this thread alone.
     
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    I didn't read the article. First game back for pb, 5-11. Not bad. But the last 3 games, 2-9, 1-11, 3-11. What did I miss in that article?
     
  7. roxfan123

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    Pointing out BEV should start does not help the team, rather create a "feels good" environment, which is not what this group need right now. Somebody should break the bubble and tell the organization that this should not the right direction. Simple as that.
     
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    For those who don't, you think his article would help? Like I said, I appreciate Real_egal' article way much more than his.
     
  9. jms99

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    I agree that Bev should start, but not because of the analysis. There is no real analysis in that situation because Harden has the ball in his hands. Those are really Harden's stats, not Bev's or Lin's stats.
     
  10. kwongadong

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    Beverley is the better fit with the direction McHale is taking this team.

    Whether or not his is a winning strategy is still tbd.

    DH12 is not a dominant post player. Harden should not be playing PG. He needs to score, not look to facilitate scoring opportunities for others.
     
  11. cfansnet

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    To me it's not about who starts, but who plays the most and who ends the game. If I remember correctly, there's some stat where we lose more games when Lin plays less minutes than Bev or something like that.
     
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    Bev is the better fit starting, Lin should be the one finishing games.

    All in all, McHale is the main reason this team cant get it together, unless he gets it together we are doomed.
     
  13. baki

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    Completely disagree with this. Eye test tells me and all the other NBA players that Lin is far more dangerous offensively and underrated defensively, Bev is has slightly more success at rebounding and is quite effective at injuring people.

    You know, it's very easy to pull out a starter and put someone else there that can inflate the other starters' numbers and call that a solution.
     
  14. Zboy

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    How is stating what's obvious as you say it creating a "feel good environment"? What group are you referring to?

    I am hoping the Rockets organization does not browse a basketball forum to tell them what to do. If so, we have bigger problems.

    You dont think the Rockets brass are monitoring the situation and where this team stands in terms of PG/PF play?
     
  15. YaoMac09

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    Bev AND Lin are BOTH playing bad. Terrible thread.
     
  16. Zboy

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    Everything. I suggest you read it.
     
  17. roxfan123

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    I remember the first few games that Harden and Lin played together. That was really exciting. Good days never last... Anyway, a better coach would help a lot.
     
  18. roxfan123

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    Clutch himself has personal access to the organization.
     
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    Bervely is not the answer either but neither is Lin. Just that pat gives u some energy but in my opinion that energy sometimes is too much. He ties to over play his man and gets in foul trouble he should just focus on sticking to his man and learning to pass to Dwight. He is terrible at giving the ball to Howard. Everyone usually takes long to pass it to him but Pat takes even longer and makes Howard do some unnecessary extra work. When he is inside just pass the ball to him.
    And another thing pat thinks he has great handles and moves. I hate it when he dribbles and dribbles but goes no where and tries to shoot it.
    Those are terrible shots.

    Along
    Dmo's 3 and Tj 3
    Harden's ISO in the last second standing still
    Lin and parsons jumping in the air w no idea where to throw the ball
    Parsons and casspi pump fakes and drive to nowhere (few of them are done but at least shoot more when their open)
     
  20. JustAGuy

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    It seems unlikely that he is going to tell them what to do in basketball operations. The very best he could expect from such an attempt would be to have them smile and nod and ignore him. It goes downhill from there.

    Further, he agrees with them.
     

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