I was calling the plays from my living room and right most of the time. Imagine the glee of defensive coordinators. I think the change to OBrien is going to be stunning regardless of the QB. Not saying he could make Schaub look good, but he might.
I think Manziel will be able to run around in the NFL and create for himself. The thing is can he stay in the pocket longer, can he be a pocket passer. Can he learn a complex system that depends on reading defenses and looking downfield and find the open receiver. Maybe he can but we do have an example of another QB that ran Sumlin's offense with success but has yet to translate it to the pros. The biggest problem with Case is his ability to read defenses, to stay in the pocket and go through his progressions and keep focused downfield. Case is a smart kid and still he really didn't much better this season at doing those things. And these are the same things that Johnny has yet to show he can do. At least at any consistent level. I don't know if he will be able to at the next level. Maybe Sumlin just wanted Manziel to improvise all the time and it's mostly on the coach and Manziel will adjust fin. But I got to be honest, everything I saw of Manziel almost always he was flushed out with pressure and stopped looking downfield. On the run he could do some great things but the corners and safeties won't let him get away with some of those things in the NFL. The biggest issue for me is he is an unknown. Can he be a pocket passer enough to mix in with his amazing albeit unorthodox creative play. If he can the sky is the limit for him but if he can't and he is left with throwing with lots of protection or creating on the run I don't think he has a lot of success. And personally I just don't know if he can transform his game and that's too big a risk for me. Still want to see. He will be exciting too watch if he can. I just don't want to watch it on the Texans.
No doubt JF is a high risk, high reward selection. Not sure the Texans are at the place where they can play the "high risk" game. I am trending more and more to the TB selection. Definitely do not want Clowney. OBrien is likely going to make everyone better. We were "stuck in the mud" with Kubiak.
Can somebody please explain to me the difference Vick coming out and going number 1 and manziel coming out but has so many unknowns and doubters. Vick ran the option in college he wasn't a passing QB why didn't he have the questions and doubts that manziel is getting can he read defenses can go through his progression and all the other questions. Manziel can almost run like Vick but he's showcased his arm in college too. Did Vick ever get questioned about can he be a pocket passer? Did they ever say Vick style won't translate to NFL? Did they say all the same things they are saying about manziel about Vick. Because to me they are the same player Vick can throw farther but manziel is a better passer to me IMO. So can someone please educate me.
Agree. After listening to Brett Kollman talk about Obrien's system I just think this team will be so much better next year. I would like to draft Teddy B and sign Josh McCown. So much of Obrien's system is dependent on the QB and the guy has to get it right away. Both of those guys should be able to pick it up fast IMO. McCown may be out of our price range but he reads defenses like the best of them. If not McCown I want the smartest vet out there even if he is a little past his prime. I think Teddy B can come in and contribute right away but it would be nice to have vet to start off and gradually work Teddy in. And later he can mentor him on the sideline.
Vick was 1. more athletic than Manziel 2. much stronger arm than Manziel The 2001 draft had 1. Only one other qb of notoriety 2. Pocket passer by the name of Brew Brees Who is better? Vick or Drew Brees Stop hyping up 3 rd talent, Manziel is not a 1st round pick let a lone a 1st overall
Funny how he still hasn't evolved into a pocket passer after all these years I guarantee you the Falcons would have taken ol drew in a redraft
I don't think there is much difference. Clearly Vick is faster but Johnny is probably more elusive. The thing is Vick is probably more of a reason why you don't draft Manziel number one overall than a reason to. His had an okay career but nothing to warrant the number one pick. In hindsight wouldn't the Falcons rather have Drew Brees.
This is "The Johnny Thread" so why does he have to stop...? You don't have to stop coming on here hating on Johnny and others don't have to stop liking him. Don't be a board bully dude. Just state your opinion on why you feel Johnny isn't the guy. And Teddy more than likely isn't going to be the #1 pick either. Especially if the Texans go out and get Josh McCown LIKE THEY SHOULD.
Vick wasn't taking football are life seriously when he was with the Falcons. He was a much different quarterback when Andy got a hold of him. Imagine if Vick was more serious about the game and he had a coach like Andy when he first came in the league _ he would have been a much better QB.
McCown was one of THE BEST QBs in the league last year when he was on the field. And the dude is mobile too. I've been saying that but you guys are so infatuated with these rookies.
Like I said, imagine if Vick would have had Andy as a Rookie and not at the back end of his career because Vick is still like a rookie as far as being a passer because he just started to take the game seriously and apply himself when he got to Philly. But it is what it is. Funny how Eli Manning can lead the league 3 times in interceptions and you cut him a break but hear you are dogging out Vick... Hmmmmmm... Wonder why....
I just read where he said he wants to play and he is even willing to stay in Chicago and back up Cutler (when it should be the opposite). I don't care if he's 34. He still has a few good years until we find his replacement _ in next year's draft that will have much better QB choices.
