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Uncle Bob praises Clowney.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Raven, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. endoftheworld

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    No difference, if you are true competitor you go out there and handle everyone in your way regardless of the situation
     
  2. Remii

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    College is preparation for people to go out and earn a living and football is the only reason many athletes go to college so they can make it to the NFL. The ONLY reason Clowney was in college this year is because of the three year rule and there was talk that he was considering sitting out all together.

    Clowney dogging it this year is equivalent to Teddy choosing to go to a Mickey Mouse school in a Mickey Mouse conference when he could have went anywhere. But at least we've seen Clowney dominate.
     
  3. JeffB

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    I am a little late to this party, but I have had some time to read up on and watch Clowney....

    Clowney sounds like a great fit for a multiple front defense. The team could play him at rush LB in 3-4 fronts and have him put a hand down in 4-3 looks. Along with moving Watt to various positions along the front, the potential scheme versatility is enticing.

    The only thing better than a QB is a guy who can stop QBs. The Texans have to be excited about potentially pairing Watt and Clowney.

    Part do NFL success is distributing the cap well amongst positions. Folks have argued that paying two elite DEs is not sustainable, but does that change when one of the guys is that versatile hybrid type?
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Well the Niners have several guys on their defense that either are already or will be highly paid soon, same goes for Seattle. I think as long as they are performing at a top level, you can do it. Also, the Texans wouldn't have to pay 2 guys at a top level for at least 5 years so it's more of a long term potential problem than anything. If you aren't paying a top level QB 20 mil a year you should be fine spending on defense.
     
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    Seahawks and 49 er's will have to worry about paying there QB top #.. At the moment they can get away with all the stars on their defense, because they have QB's on their rookie salary.. It will be difficult once they have to get paid
     
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    LOL i didnt read your last sentence which states everything i just said, but yea your right.. As long as long as you can find a QB in the drft that can start right away and make you a contender than you can do it
     
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    I also wonder if the Niners and Seahawks will ever pay those guys as if they are top tier QB's. I think the better play is to know where your bread is buttered and offer them a lowball deal to keep the defense intact, if they don't take it, go with someone else. Both of those guys are fairly easily replaceable.
     
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    I dont think they are easy to replace, and they will get paid.. the Seahawks nor the 49er's would have made it as far as they did with out those QB's... they have got lucky in the draft and hit on good QB's that the texans only dream to do this draft..

    who would you replace them with? just curious?
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    I'd just draft the next athletic game manager to take over for them. Their teams get by with some of the least production from the QB position in the league and were 31 and 32 in pass attempts this year for the second year in a row (3rd year in a row for San Fran). They simply don't need much from their QB and shouldn't blow a ton of money on the position since they are getting to the SB with guys who do incredibly little.
     
  10. Remii

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    The 49ers made it to the NFC championship with Alex Smith. But if one of them gets a super bowl ring they could get paid.
     
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    They could get paid by someone, but maybe not their own team. I think teams might have learned their lesson from Flacco.
     
  12. Remii

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    Lynch isn't going to last forever and there is no guarantee they will even resign him. Russell hasn't really had the receiving options. There's a reason they brought in Harvjn. It's going to be interesting to see how he looks next year.
     
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    That's sort of my point though, the team doesn't need much from the QB, they win with running game and defense, why would they change a winning formula and make a limited QB do more? RW is an awesome game manager and he certainly has some flair with his athleticism but he's not ever going to have success as a normal QB. Have him throw the ball 600 times a season like the big boys and you are looking at like 20 or 30 interceptions, that's just not the guy he is.
     
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    You would have more of a case if guys like Matthew Stafford and Jay Cutler weren't getting elite quarterback pay. And a guy like Schaub getting paid after a surgery.
     
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    That's why I mentioned Harvin...

    People say it's a quarterback league but I disagree... It's a passing league. And all the new rule changes benefit receivers more than anyone.

    Payton throws a lot of screens and 8 yard passes. His receivers get that YAK. And that's what Harvin does (when healthy). Plus Seattle has a staple full of running backs. That rookie they got is no joke.
     
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    Schaub was before Flacco got overpaid.
     
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    Fixed
     
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    Well when teams like the Niners and Seahawks have been dominating the NFC for the last couple of years it looks like it's not a passing league in that they don't win by passing the ball, they win by running the ball and playing defense. Maybe passing (Denver) will beat defense (Seattle) in this year's SB, we'll see.
     
  19. Remii

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    I'm not saying Seattle will turn into a dominant passing team... I'm just saying Russell may contribute more if he has Harvin on the field. And Seattle does have a good young running back, but no guarantee he can do what Lynch can do and no guarantee how long Lynch can keep playing like he's playing.

    So Lynch is the primary weapon on offense now, but they can't expect him to keep that up forever so they have to hope Russell continues with his development. And the same can be said for Kaepernick.
     
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    I think if he attempts to "contribute more" it'll lead to turnovers. He's not that kind of QB. The more he tries to do, the more it'll hurt the team. I think they put their energies into trying to find the next RB to take Lynch's spot.
     

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