Bridgewater is worth a top pick Thats about it, if we traded down, pick up Jimmy G Everyone else (excluding Jeff Mattews) is made for the trash receptacles
That's fine, then we don't really disagree philosophically, we just rate the prospects differently. IMO Teddy is the best there is in this class, but he's nothing special. He'll probably perform about as well as Sam Bradford has. Manziel isn't an NFL QB prospect, he's this year's Tebow. Some team will be stupid enough to draft him and it'll cost their FO their jobs. I'm not high on Bortles either, but I think he's a first round pick due to the teams who reach for QB's every year like the Browns. Since there aren't any "can't miss" top tier QB talent (again IMO) and there is a guy like Clowney there I'm for taking him. Of course if I rated the QB prospects differently that would all change.
I used it in perfect context. What's rich is the fact that you actually had to look it up!!! I'm glad I could teach you a new word. Now back to football...
....Do you really think I looked it up simply because I provided you a link for a further explanation of why you used it incorrectly? Just give up and stop digging that hole. it's not going to get any better for you.
It's simple. You looked it up because you have never seen that word before. Now you are trying to justify attacking me by saying "i attacked your argument first". Nice try. I'll say it again, I am happy I could teach you a new word.
I'm trying to explain to you how you are making yourself look like an idiot by using a Latin phrase for a logical fallacy that you don't completely grasp. I even provided you a link to a site to help you understand what "ad hominem" really is so that you don't make yourself look like an idiot in the future. Put the cork back on the fork, it's for your protection.
saying something over and over does not make it right. i believe that you believe that you are correct on this issue. and, that's OK. please move on and cut out the ad hominem from now on.
LOL you're hopeless. Maybe one day you'll figure it out, until then, don't accuse people of logical fallacies that you don't fully understand. It really does make you look bad. I do agree that this conversation should end though. There's no point if you are going to continue to be willfully ignorant.
It may be exaggerated by some, but that doesn't mean it's irrelevant. Between the average AAC & SEC team, a difference in skill levels for a secondary is less obvious, but there is a palpable difference in the pass rush/front 7. That Jamarcus Russell was fat, lazy, and horribly inaccurate doesn't change anything. Bridgewater is extremely accurate short-mid, very profesional, and a hard worker, but he's also undersized, & untested against quality defense. His positive traits make me feel comfortable in assuming that he would work his ass off, learn a ton, and have time to adjust to NFL speeds as a backup during his first year in the pros.
I found something kind of fishy about this article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20140122/teddy-bridgewater-nfl-draft-2014/ What's fishy is the same Joe Bussell said this 6 months ago: http://draftbreakdown.com/the-right-comparison-for-bridgewater/ I wonder what payroll Bussell is on. Jax? Oak? Cleveland?
Your continuous use of insults puts your insecurities on full display. Additionally they only strengthen my argument. Bye bye now.
Maybe he bought the hype 6 months ago and now doesn't. A lot of people change their minds over the course of a college football season.
I agree. But, Teddy did nothing last season to warrant that drastic of a change of opinion. In fact, he improved on his previous two seasons. That's why you have to take what these "experts" say with a grain of salt. I depend on my own eyes and experiences to mold my opinions.
What hype, he says he sees the comparison to Rodgers. he had to watch video to see it. Did he watch more video and stop seeing it. Sure anyone can change their minds over the course of a college football season but Teddy Bridgewater got better this year. Almost everyone who watches video comes to that conclusion. The people who watch have very specific reasons why they like him. The people who don't almost all fall in the category of size and competition. Because they would be lying if they told you he does not have a beautiful spiral, throws with amazing accuracy and has the best footwork since Andrew Luck and maybe better. And the other thing is it's easy to overlook what makes TB special. What he does is boring. The more video and film you watch the more you see Bridgewaters best attributes. It's what happened to me, the more I watched the more I liked what I saw but I had to get passed the fact that he doesn't do it the Manziel way. I loved watching the Manziel Way and Bridgewater can and does do that too at times but he's mostly just boring. It's opposite of what happens when watching Manziel it's easy to see his flashiness and amzing plays but you have to look harder to see he makes the game harder for himself to get these flashy plays. With bridgewater it's the mundane but consistent smart decisions sprinkled in with some amazing plays. And the more you watch the more you see how he rarely makes a bad decision.
I don't watch college football, but can't Bridgewater be similar to both in college? It's quite possible that both Bradford and Rodgers looked similar and had similar skills in college, but injuries and development changed their career paths in the NFL. Some QBs develop and others do not. I think a comparison to Bradford doesn't imply Bridgewater's going to be a bust. It may not even be a bad thing, as long as Bridgewater avoids all the issues that caused Bradford to not live up to his hype.
After personal work ethic and health, I think coach/system is a major factor in determining if a player busts or not.
It won't be the same as the david carr situation even in a worse case scenario. It's less risky than drafting Sam Bradford would've been.
