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[Celtics] Jeff Green on the trading block now?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by crimmy88, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. ItalianRocket

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    Not sure why you guys would not do it,he would be an all-star with our system and he is a decent defender.
    He would help us now and we could still flip him for something next year,though Love will sign with LA probably and LMA is talking about an extension in Portland.
     
  2. basketballholic

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    This rumor is all about Asik. Celtics trying to find a 3rd team that will give up some assets that can be flipped to Houston.
     
  3. JayZ750

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    Before last night he had 6 straight games of under 40% shooting. He has some good rebound stretches then some so-so rebounding stretches.
    His game scores, per basketball reference (not 100% sure of calculation, but an all-encompassing stat like QBR), has been pretty mediocre during that stretch, again until last night.

    is he better than TJones today? Maybe. But when you factor in the fact that TJones is true PF, and before this minor injury was playing amazing, it's pretty close. TJones last game was 36 points, 11 boards on 14-20 shooting... a better game score than Green had last night. But his games before that were 19-17, 12-12, 25-8 and 16-13... (points, boards), oh btw while average 3 blocks a game, and shooting better than 50% every game. Terrence is a 19 PER guy, Jeff Green is sitting at 14, below league average.

    If green is better than TJones today, it's because he's been doing it longer, and is less inconsistent... even though Green remains somewhat inconsistent himself.

    The issue with TJones is will he have another spell like he did in December when he put together a string of mediocre games? One point that might lead you to say no is his 3 point attempts. Whereas during that spell he was consistently putting up 2-4 a game, he now hasn't attempted more than 2 since december 26th. it points to a very slight, but significant change in role for him mentally. Whereas before he (and maybe the coaches) were still trying to fit him into that true "spacer" role that Casspi might bring off the bench, or Morris brought last year, they've finally realized he's just not a good 3 point shooter today. as a result, over that same stretch, starting with that 12/26 game, he's been extremely efficient, shooting 56% from the floor while averaging 15.5 pg.

    Long-story short, I'd like to have Green on the team, but certainly wouldn't trade TJones in any deal for him, and don't really want him anyway given his contract length.
     
  4. tzou88

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    No to Green.
     
  5. robbie380

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    He isn't arguably better than Parsons. I don't know why you would think that. I would like to have Green on the team if contracts weren't an issue. Parsons is easily better than Green and his contract is obscenely better. T Jones certainly isn't a polished offensive player yet but he is a much better fit for what the Rockets need.

    It would be great to have Green but his contact sucks. Pass.
     
  6. ktbballplaya

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    Parsons is not easily better than green.. stop looking at stats and look at there skill set and the position they are put in. Yes Parsons does have a better contract, but so what. You put parsons in jeff green situation where you are the go to player and main focus on defense every night, I can guarantee you his stats would look a whole lot different.
     
  7. mario_v

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    Sometimes I question the basketball IQ of clutchfans, smh... Get on my level!
     
  8. Entropy

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    We have to ask if he can put us over the hump against rival teams like okc or Dallas. Our team as built won't. But if he doesn't, we should pass.
     
  9. Nook

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    Nope, Parsons is easily better than Green.
     
  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Jeff Green was in Parsons situation when he played with The big 3 and still underachieved.


    He's a veteran version of Harrison Barnes. Low motor and plays well with confidence but folds easily under pressure which is the complete opposite of Parsons.
     
  11. GoRox2013

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    Listen, I know we all love certain guys on the team. I like Parsons, he's a talented player who turned out to be a STEAL for his draft worth. But you guys need to stop letting your emotions dictate a players worth just because he plays for the home team. Jeff Green is a better more skilled player than Chandler Parsons. He has a higher skill set all around the board. The problem is, he plays for a lousy azz team that's in the process of tanking. Put him in a fast paced offense where he'll get WIDE OPEN looks and fastbreak dunks, and he'll become the stretch 4 we've all been waiting for. He can handle the ball, he can shoot, and he's quicker than most PF's he matches up with.
     
  12. Nook

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    Nope, Parsons is better than Green.....
     
  13. FeaR

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    i completely agree with you ... Low motor guy ... i don't want him for a starter at 4 and with this contract. He is rebounding only because he has a clause in his contract (how many players do have?).
     
  14. RocketsJumer

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    If Green would be willing to coming off the bench, then I would be all for us getting him. He is versatile enough to play the SG, SF and PF positions so he should be able to nab most if not all of Garcia and Casspi's minutes. No offense to those two but they are great 9th and 10th man players, not the 7th or 8th man as we are using them currently. And Green would still be able to get at least 25+ minutes a game and really man up our bench.

    We would still need to solve the big man off the bench to back up Howard.
     
  15. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    See the problem with your analysis is that you can't teach motor. Either you have it and love the game or you don't. YES Green is more talented, YES Green has a better skillset but it doesn't make him a better player.

    Green played a fast paced offense in OKC with Durant and STILL was inconsistent, Lazy on the boards and defense. He played like a guard, not a forward. Don't give me the "He will grow up on a good team" talk either because HE'S 27!
     
  16. ktbballplaya

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    He played ONE YEAR with the big 3 and that was after a year away from the game. Only avg 28 min a game and avg 13 points I don't think he underachieved at all. He's a natural 3 that CAN play the 4 but would rather he play the 3
     
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    I'm not being emotional. Parsons is without question better. Green is a nice player but let's not get too crazy. He's more efficient and he creates better. Anyhow, all we can do is agree to disagree. The only way we could take on Green was if he would waive his player option..... But we all know that isn't happening.
     
  18. GoRox2013

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    Lazy? Seems you're adding your own personal assumptions in there, lmao. You claim Green was inconsistent in OKC, but he averaged double digits in every one of his first 3 season there. Plus, what player doesn't have question marks in his 1st 3 seasons?

    Bottomline, you're too stuck on YOUR personal opinion of Jeff Green rather than his actual skillset. Parson's is a system player, put him on a team like the Celtics where he's the number 1 and he'd struggle getting his own shot. Two different types of players, and Jeff Green is the overrall better one.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Parsons a system player? WHAT SYSTEM?

    The issue with this team is it has NO system. Green is a very talented player but Parsons is better and it's obvious. He was invited to play with the US select team. He got praise from Kobe. He's even contributed as a rookie. I'm done wasting my words with you since the only one here that is stuck with a personal opinion is you.
     
  20. ktbballplaya

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    Where you jack up as many shots as you can and run every chance you get. Same system D'antonio runs
     

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