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Teddy Bridgewater or Bust

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Old Man Rock, Dec 3, 2013.

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  1. endoftheworld

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    He is talking a lot of tall talk, has a competitor I expect him to back it up.

    He is the one saying his numbers will be unbelievable

    I expect as much
     
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    LOL, okay....

    Well good luck with that.
     
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    Then give me Bridgewater then
     
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    That's just not true. Overall, he's a solid LBer. As for his combine, he had a surprisingly good combine because people didn't think he was that athletic, I don't think he necessarily had a "monster" one.
     
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    Well only if he runs a sub 4.4 40 time while benching at least 30 reps.....Oh wait, you only put those unrealistic standards on players you don't want to draft in a weak effort to make the player you do want to draft look better.
     
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    Clowney suing for a sandwich shop that used his name
     
  7. endoftheworld

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    All the measurable matter a lot more for a guy like Clowney than Bridgewater...

    Clowne is the guy that set those standards for himself..
     
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    He's right about Manziel. But that doesn't mean he wont be good.

    Liking Bridgewater the best isn't saying much. Ask him where he thinks Bridgewater would rank had he been eligible 2 years ago (5th QB overall).

    Bortles sucks.

    Everyone loves Mallet's arm but he has no accuracy and he sucks.

    Cousins is overrated.
     
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    Clowney's play speaks for itself, he was the most disruptive defensive player in college footall 2 years running, he has nothing to prove. Bridgewater on the other hand, has quite a bit to prove because he's probably closer to 6'1 than his listed 6'3, his hands could be small, he's likely under 200 lbs....He needs to prove that he has the physical attributes for the NFL game, there's no one that questions Clowney's physical traits.
     
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    He's right about Manziel. But that doesn't mean he wont be good.

    Playing without structure (missing or not throwing routes and passes) and no understanding your offense has the stench of BUST all over Johnny, want nothing to do with him unless we are going out for a night in the town (JF can pull the ladies)

    Liking Bridgewater the best isn't saying much. Ask him where he thinks Bridgewater would rank had he been eligible 2 years ago (5th QB overall). (Something you are pulling out of your buttocks) He is better than Griffin, Tannehill, taller than RW1

    He would be the second qb off the board like or not...

    Bortles sucks. ( Thats a given)

    Everyone loves Mallet's arm but he has no accuracy and he sucks. (Again a given)

    Cousins is overrated. (Agreed)
     
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    No chance, Teddy isn't an RG3 type QB, I think he might have been the 3rd QB drafted if he was in that class, but that's not saying a lot.
     
  12. endoftheworld

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    Bridgewater is a much better qb than RG3.

    I don't get enamored by big runs or big throws

    I fall in love with can you matriculate your offense efficiently and effectively down the field consistently to score points. RG3 has no where near Bridgewater's qb acumen to do that
     
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    What you aren't realizing is that RG3 was a top notch passing prospect, not just a running QB, compare their college passing stats, RG3 puts Bridgewater to shame. There's no way Bridgewater would be picked first if they were in the same draft class.

    What you are doing is letting bias based on what's happened since he's been in the NFL blind you to the obvious truth that he was a monster QB prospect.
     
  14. endoftheworld

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    RG3 couldn't look a safety off his receiver
    RG3 lacked critical ball placement
    RG3 couldn't read coverages
    RG3 couldn't progress through his reads consistently

    All this is stuff that you don't just pick up instantly, it takes seasons upon seasons to master and the fact the Bridgewater already learned and mastered these concepts in an easier environment (college football) makes it much easier for his transition and growth into the pros.

    Also don't be surprised if Bridgewater displays arm strength close to RG3 by pro day

    Along with improved build, refining his lower body mechanics with Weinke will help his down field velocity alot
     
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    He is in his 40's and lost his hair........ looks about right when you remember he was 30 when he entered the NBA.
     
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    RG3 did that stuff great in the Big 12 and you are basing what you think you know about Bridgewater on what he did in the Big East and the AAC. Reading coverages against Eastern Kentucky is awesome and all, but it doesn't mean you can do so in the NFL.
     
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    The bold may be a bit of an overstatement. He had a monster SO year, but last year he was far from "the most disruptive".

    A couple of points though. 1) What TB seemingly lacks, his physical traits, he will be able to answer definitively. Whether it's 6'1, 2 or 6'3. 200, 210 or 220. Whatever. ..We are going to know what those numbers are at the time of the combine. (I would argue, however, that being 6'1 and weighing 200 does very little to diminish his true ability, i.e. smart decisions and accurate throws, but that's another discussion).

    Clowney, on the other hand, will undoubtedly show his amazing physical traits. But showing those traits does not answer the real question marks about him. Which are, Can he develop his skill and technique as a pass rusher? Does he have that relentless motor? Will he take plays off? etc.
     
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    Level of competition does not matter (if it does for you take a look at Miami and Florida)

    It is about conceptually understanding and applying what you need to do as a qb whether it is against little league or NFL pros

    If you can look off a safety in high school, you can do that in the pros...get my drift?
     
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    The real questions for me regarding Clowney
     
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    Clowney being disruptive goes beyond what appears on most stat sheets. He was the one guy that was always being gameplanned for and he still managed to pressure the QB a lot of the time. I liken him to Watt in that sense. Watt's basic stats went down considerably this year from last year but he was every bit as dominant and disruptive...he just didn't get the sacks this season.

    I think if you put those two players together on a D line, you terrorize every QB in the league which is one of the most valuable things you can do in this supposedly QB driven league. You keep the opposing QB off his game and you have a good chance of winning any game.
     
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