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Do the Obama's have a black celeb thing?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by downbytheriver, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. mc mark

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    I wonder if Mr. LaSalvia had freaks like texxx and our new bigot in mind.

    Probably deserves it's own thread

    GOProud co-founder Jimmy LaSalvia leaving Republican party: Calls party "brain dead

    “I just came to the realization that the Republican Party doesn’t represent my principles and values,” LaSalvia told POLITICO. “I’m a small government conservative and they’re for big government. They’re happy to have big government as long as they’re in charge, More importantly, I don’t tolerate bigotry of any kind, whether it’s anti-gay bigotry, anti-Muslim bigotry. And they do and that’s just not OK with me.”

    “I think there’s a cultural problem within the Republican Party that’s beyond fixing. I think the leadership of the Republican Party is so out of touch with life in America today that I just decided that it’s not worth fixing. I don’t think they can win a national election again. Pull the plug on the patient, the party’s brain dead.”
     
  2. CometsWin

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    History will not look kindly upon the last thirty years of conservatism. Shameful.
     
  3. napalm06

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    Any time you tie race into anything, you ruined your point.

    However, Obama definitely has a minor cult of personality thing going on. I don't think you can objectively deny it.

    Americans are becoming increasingly incapable of separating two ideas from one another. Perception is an extremely powerful tool. Obama is an idea. An idea that the President doesn't have to be a white middle class protestant, that he can be hip and in-touch, and that he is a truly caring person you'd enjoy having dinner with. People have bought into the idea, and are unable to separate it from any negativity towards Mr. President. I understand that most people in D&D are just being inflammatory and goofy. However, I truly believe some people can't rationalize the idea that a person they believe to be like themselves can have negative traits.

    I also don't think the Republicans can ever win a national election again, unless the Dems just shoot themselves in both feet. Ideology aside, if we're just talking in terms of perception victories, Dems have beat the Pubs up and down over the last 10 years.
     
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    Umm... every President has a cult of personality. Clinton was "hip," Reagan was "back-to-basics," Kennedy was the "new generation," Bush Jr. was "continuing the tradition," etc. This is not exclusive to Obama. And many of us have criticized Obama on certain points. But unfortunately, we have to use most of our energy refuting extremist cons who fault President Obama for every single decision, including their choice of guests at the White House. We'd be glad to enter into a rational, normal discussion of the President- but you literally can't do this when one side takes a 100% stand. No President in the history of the U.S. is always wrong- nor, of course, are they always right. But one side tries to paint it as that, so you have what you have. It's nothing new- people have been doing this since the 1700s- but it's more out there now due to the Internet and social media.
     
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  6. peleincubus

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    Chris Farley would truly be disappointed in this thread.

    Do you realize if he had too many white people someone somewhere would be complaining that he is Uncle Tom. I wonder what the perfect mixed % of races could potentially make everyone happy?
     
  7. justtxyank

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    I don't think Clinton or either of the Bush boys comes close to a cult of personality. Being really popular and having media slogans isn't the same as having a cult of personality.

    They chant Obama's name at speeches. He tries to be respectful at a speech after the Benghazi situation and talk about a dead ambassador and you have an audience creaming themselves like they are at an Elvis concert. You have media members that self admit to fawning over him. Obama even cracked a joke about how stressed out Matthews was when his first debate wasn't good this time around. Celebrities fall all over themselves to be around the president.

    Believe it or not, most presidents are not celebrities in THAT way. Sure they are famous and either popular or infamous, but George Bush was certainly not a rock star and neither was Clinton.

    None of that is necessarily bad. It's just different.
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    I'm not here to do your research for you. The fact that you posted only pictures of the black people at the party says all anyone needs to know about you. You're an anti-Obama shill who doesn't deserve to be taken seriously, just like your last moniker, the one before that, and the one before that.
     
  9. Air Langhi

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    Clinton wasn't a rockstar?
     
  10. justtxyank

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    No. I don't mean he wasn't incredibly popular, because obviously he was. He may have more favor ability than Obama. But that's not not what I'm talking about.

    It also may be largely because of the internet era that Obama is in and celebrity culture we are vs. what it was then.
     
  11. glynch

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    Not really. The racist card is more often the basis, sometimes, not to hidden of their strategy.

    There is a reason it is a much stronger movement in the old confederacy.
     
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    Apologies, but I have seen only a handful of relevant, astute observations in this whole discussion. However, I do agree with the general premise that, if one criticizes Obama, he or she must, by definition, be a racist. Personally, Obama could be as white as the Kennedys and I would oppose his policies because, in my opinion, those policies are bad for the country.
     
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    Right. This is the conservative tactic where it's about policy but trash him as a Muslim and a Kenyan, claim he hates white people or that he's not really black, and then cry that it's not about race. Got it.
     
  14. Major

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    That's because you're stupid.

    justtxyank, Refman, and many others have criticized Obama and his actions. Yet they aren't called racist. Your point is thus proven false.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    On the other hand, is your stupidity not showing? Did I or did I not specify in my observation that this is a GENERAL (as opposed to all inclusive) premise?
     
  17. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You had no point. You consistently post paranoid nonsense. A few weeks ago you agreed Democrats were trying to destroy America. By all means though, please continue.
     
  18. Baba Booey

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    If your IQ is above 90, I would be shocked.
     
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    Then your hair must be standing on end. : )
     
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    I was looking for the post(s) to which you refer. I don't believe I referred to Democrats as trying to destroy America, but I do believe the Far Left liberals are (and Obama IMO is a member of the latter group). After all, I am working in the Democratic Party to help move it closer to the center.
     

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