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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. imaginedragons

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    why is it when people have a different opinion, he gets called a troll?

    from what i've seen and heard not just on this forum but in tri-media as well, many have been second guessing the Rockets' coaching, especially defensively, and their performance despite their star power.

    so i fail to see how that guy who voiced his opinion (shared by a lot) about Mchale gets to be called a troll.
     
  2. Hmm

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    We have an offensively loaded starting five.... remember...? That's why we're starting Bev over Lin...?


    An offensively loaded starting five in a "read and react" freestyle "system" will find it hard to fail offensively over long stretches... It's a lack of defense that's a big part of problem with this team... when their freestyling three-point emphasized offense DOES fail... and it will often through an 82 season... and especially in the playoffs... they have nothing to fall back on... no organized plays to facilitate a recovery (harden isolation facilitates NOTHING but the oppositions' defensive planning)... or defense to keep the other team from taking the lead back... This is where the coaching is to blame...
     
  3. beastlyball

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    Delusional? Are we not a middle of the pack team? Do our record not reflect this fact? Who gives a crap what Parsons say in an interview? Does it somehow change the fact that we are a super talented team who's underachieving? Forgive me for having higher expectation for my team, and not settling to pump my pom pom and calling myself a fan.
     
  4. b2bizchina

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    Fire McHale because we really need a defensive coach
     
  5. yummyhawtsauce

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    read and react will fail, because the coach will not know how to adjust over the long term when that does not work. playoffs. well we will see during playoffs what will happen and if mchale can make the right adjustments
     
  6. j3i

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    Educate yourself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m4G1jDogas&list=PLXWsHGeAyQD7A5Vk8zLEA-j3oLlJ-4OYH
     
  7. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    What facts do you have that the team has horrible chemistry? You are just delusional all together. We are the in the middle of stacked western conference. We have beaten some damn good teams in Portland, GS, and SAS while being bitten pretty harshly by the injury bug. Heck, even Miami had trouble their first year together. If you expected the Rockets to just immediately click then you are even more delusional than I thought. You think you are fan because you are critical of this team, but in truth you are a troll who is entitled to his own crazy opinion. Come back when you actually start watching this team play.
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    Based off of our record..... its' more winning than not. You sure you watch Roxs basketball?

    We are positioned in the playoffs.... as I mentioned we are one game behind Clips..... WHO HAVE DOC RIVERS.... for the 4th spot.

    Then how is that on Mchale and not the front office.....since you understand what's going on?

    Ok? Sorry if you don't know what the means......
     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    Because he is a troll. It's pretty obvious. Bring some facts to the table and you won't get laughed at or called a troll. But don't sit here and say we have the worst chemistry in the NBA and it's Mchale's fault and not expect to be a called troll......
     
  10. dobro1229

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    And you should see this thread after a LOSS


    (guys… the Rockets beat one of the best teams in the league tonight, and scored a season high tonight FYI…. just sayin… )
     
  11. dmoneybangbang

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    Don't watch much of the Roxs much? DMO has pretty much sucked this season with a few bright spots. Hope he can turn it around, but it clearly looks like Tjones development is further along. The TJones who has been in the D-League and buried on the bench until early in the season.....
     
  12. dmoneybangbang

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    We've had a top 5 offense all season, with or without JLin in the starting lineup.

    The lack of defensive is partly due to their pace. Like last season, when you adjust for pace we were merely mediocre instead of awful at defense.

    Lastly, it's a complete myth they have no organized plays.
     
  13. beastlyball

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    When your team is as talented as this team is, being 5th is mediocre. When you beat good teams, then go on to lose to bad teams that is the definition of inconsistency. Inconsistency is due mainly due to chemistry. You are comparing this team to the Heat? Talk about delusional! That Heat team went to the Finals in their first year with a shorten season.

    Drexler found his role and chemistry with the rox mid season, and was able to help us win right away. I call myself a fan because I can root for my team and still be objective about the game. You call me a troll because you can't make a good point, so you resort to name calling. It's okay with me, as I know its your desperate attempt to make a point.
     
  14. WaitForIt

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    They may have some, but definitely not many. During the broadcast, they talked about how McHale himself said they don't really run plays and just play off each other. I'm guessing McHale just sets loose guidelines like throw it in the Dwight and run across the court to take away the double team.

    I'm certain the Rockets won't win a chip without a better coach that actually has the ability to draw up plays. Just look at all other chip-winning coaches in the past and compare them to McHale.
     
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    "Troll" in the sense that you're a poster who doesn't enjoy the team you "root for." It's not as hard to be a fan as you make it out to be.
     
  16. DraftBoy10

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    ^ This is what you call stupid generalizations.

    1) No one gives two ****s if you rank top 5 in O, what matters is the selective areas. Check out decisive times in decisive games and matchups(i.e the bad like Pacers games, or the Thunder 2nd half, Clippers vs the whole pie), our offensive numbers against the league's averages would be horrific. It'd be no doubt in the bottom 10. That's what you worry about. Why is our offensive execution against elite teams or particular teams stagnating? If you can inflate numbers beating the Bucks great, no one gives you a trophy for being the 5th best, you need to be THE BEST!

    And much like the next point, it's about IN-GAME adjustments. We have zero; Dallas comes back and re-does their game plan and voila they won the game twice like this. That's simple coaching, just coaching. Carlisle outsmarted us.

    2) Defensive numbers--yes. They'd have to be adjusted. It's relative. The problem isn't "defensive numbers", the problem is defensive philosophy. How to guard out of bounds plays, how to matchup, how to force players left/right/into Dwight, etc. That's something THibs, Pops, the Van Gundys mastered. Like Yao said, that **** wouldn't happen in the Lakers game. Horrible placement defensively, that's how you lose games. You don't know how to position yourself defensively!

    Secondly, with defense, it's about in-game adjustments. We make none. Dude's going off on us, or we aren't covering for shooters in the corner/angles. **** it, let's move on....no, fix the game plan on D.

    3) We have organized plays, just three-five of them. Genuinely, three to five. Otherwise care to share them to me? I know of the one out of bounds play, where Dwight rolls around for the "fake" lob that never actually amounts to anything but an ordinary pass to the top of the key. Outside of that, I haven't seen any play that was great offensively.
     
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  17. dmoneybangbang

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    And that's the problem. You and a lot of other people are just guessing. The players are taught good and bad shots, they are taught how to space the floor, and how to move. Lastly, the run sets throughout the game.

    Some people act like they have no plan but to shoot 3's and penetrate.


    Like Doc Rivers on the Clips? They are clearly in the same tier as the Roxs in the west.

    I think talent trumps coaching. However, that's not to say I wouldn't welcome a coaching change..... but good coaches aren't exactly easy to come by.
     
  18. DraftBoy10

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    Doc's ring was spear-headed by Thibs, don't be fooled. That's 100% Thibs D right there, but definitely talent is numero uno.
     
  19. archinkent

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    Organised plays that are just too simple to be figured out often end up being disorganised and broken. That's the case with Mchale's 'organised' plays.
     
  20. jocar

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    Nope, this dude does

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