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We need Rajon Rondo!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jcmoon, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    How is that relevant?
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    So what? He got a ring.

    I'm tired of hearing about "championship players" as if the fact that they happened to have been on championship teams somehow makes them a better player. It's ridiculous and it should be ridiculed.
     
  3. J Sizzle

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    1) Wasn't my argument to begin with.

    2) Your comparison did not show anything. It just made you look dumb to compare Rondo to Scalabrine when obviously that's a horrible comparison.

    3) Saying Rondo "means absolutely nothing" to the championship team he was on is one of the more comical things I've read on this site in quite a while.
     
  4. Panda23

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    yeah, so you look at Rondo's career and performances in the playoffs irrespective of rings, and he's still balled out.
     
  5. SF3isBack!!

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    Again Luke Walton played 6 mpg the last time the Lakers won a championship. He is definitely not a starting pg. You would think this would be obvious to anyone with the good since to wipe their own ass.
     
  6. Alvin Choo

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    Why rondo can bring to the Rox?
    Getting the ball out of Harden.
    Defense.
    Toughness mentality.
    Playoff experience.

    What clutchfans focus on? 3p% and FT%. Last time I checked, the current PGs are not giving 20ppg anyway.

    And then some are now comparing a 27 year old player entering his prime (barring injuries) to a fat and wash up Barkley?
     
  7. wekko368

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    Rondo wasn't a major contributor on that championship team. If anything, he was a role player.
     
  8. oogie boogie

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    YO GUYS ARE YOU SERIOUSLY STILL RESPONDING TO THIS DUDE? Lol, I know people like discussing basketball, and Rajon Rondo is a very intriguing player to try to take from the Celtics, but Bob isn't a fan of Rondo. All the information you tell him will go in one ear and out the other. You're just wasting your time trying to convince him that Rondo isn't as bad as he thinks he is.

    and with that, I'm out.
     
  9. J Sizzle

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    Of course. But to compare his impact to that of Scalabrine is downright hilarious!
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    SMH. Were you trying to miss the point?
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Fine, that's what I prefer. Unfortunately it still doesn't make him a good fit to be Rockets PG.
     
  12. SF3isBack!!

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    Since championship is the ultimate goal it might help if you had people with the proven experience to achieve that same goal again. Again this is basic common sense that is used in almost every business practice.
     
  13. GoRox2013

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    Ridiculous

    Ask any team in the NBA team who'd they rather have, Rondo or lin, and ALL of them pick Rondo. Furthermore, how much of a "better fit" can Lin be for us when he's getting benched 4th quarters for our 3rd string PG. You CLEARLY overrate Lin's talent level.

    I actually agree with Asik being dead weight at this point. Morey's mishandling of this Omer situation has really been a sore spot this year. Asik should've been shipped out this off season but is now 100% healthy & sitting in street clothes on our bench. We over valued his worth and Morey's self proclaimed deadline put us at a disadvantage
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    It's a team goal, it's a team accomplishment. It says nothing about the individual other than they happened to be on one of those teams. One shouldn't judge individuals by team accomplishment. It would be like saying that since I worked for Wal-Mart that I should be the new CEO of Verizon because I was a part of the largest corporation in the world.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    You clearly don't understand the point I'm making. You have to be able to shoot in order to fit as PG on the Rockets. Lin and Bev are the greatest shooters in the world compared to Rondo. Nothing else matters. It's like someone talking about the greatest spoon in the world when you need a knife.
     
  16. larry cook

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    true, we actually don't need a good shooting point guard as some suggest. A keen eye would realize the Rockets lack leadership, defense, toughness, and a playmaker who can set up our teammates especially Dwight for some of those easy buckets to get the big fella going (Lord knows his post game isn't all that good). Rondo would also cancel out the turnover problems we have with the inconsistent lackluster ball handlers in jeremy and the combo guard or whatever kind of error ball you want to call it James. Those careless over dibbles, feet leavers, and over thrown alley oops would cease(How you find a way to overthrow an alley to Dwight is beyond me?:eek:). Simply requesting the ball from Rondo wouldn't be as easy for Harden since hes proven and a true floor general who sees the floor. Rondo is exactly what this team needs to take the ball out of Harden's hands allowing him to learn to play off the ball and feed off his teams rather than running the shot clock down on multiple isos and performing contest with jeremy on whos man could pass who the most after each game(Even though Harden did play defense well the other night, its still a crap shot at getting that type of effort from him night in and night out). At the moment the Rox are weak/soft all the way from Dwight to our other star Harden(excluding bev/TJ, only heart I see on the floor at times), the next steps as everyone has been implying should be getting a back up wing defender/center or we're just the Texans all over again:mad:. So much talent but minimal toughness and leadership. Mchale should be replaced as well, its time for the rockets to hire a real coach. I mean Kubiak was very conservative at play calling as a sub par coach but in my opinion Mchale isn't even at the sub par bar. Hes still as terrible as he was during those coaching years in Minny before he was fired.
     
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    This is what happens when poster think metrics only and don't watch games. No one gives a rats ass when talking about winning rings which involves shot making. Why you think kevin martin isn't viewed as no more than maybe a 3rd/4th option despite his ts%? Because he can't get a high quality look when the game is tight. The chart of rondo shooting only told me what I already knew,he's a very good midrange shooter. He can get to the rim at will and finish better than just about any player in the league. Because of that, guys sag,he knocks down mid range shots.

    Let me explain to you something about shooting. 3pt shoting doesn't mean you can shoot,it signifies range. There are a lot of guys who can shoot 3s,but are not good shooters. Guys like curry,korvers,dirk,and ray allen are great shooters with range. There are a lot of good 3pt shooters who are not good shooters. Kobe is a good shooter,but he's a 30% 3 pt shooter. Rondo doesn't have 3pt range,but he's a good shooter midrange like tony parker. I won't even go into all the other game deciding things rondo does
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Just to be clear, I'm not even saying that we need a "good" shooting PG, just one that isn't completely terrible, like Dwight Howard terrible at shooting. 60% FT's and 20% 3 pointers won't cut it, they don't have to be "good" they just can't be that pathetic at it.
     
  19. mr. 13 in 33

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    Rondo is a pass first type player which means he'll get more assist than points and basically gonna be driving to the basket most of the time.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, gotcha, so him being a 60% FT shooter isn't because he's a bad shooter, it's because he doesn't have FT range?
     

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