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Bill O'Brien's coaching staff

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Sydeffect, Jan 1, 2014.

  1. Sydeffect

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    NFL defenses this year (Yards vs Points allowed):

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  2. Rudyc281

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    We have had more misses than hits late in the draft that falls on scouting and pro personal could be a good move to let these guys go or a bad move but I think it was a good move and I'm not on the rick smith bandwagon but I think he's a pretty good GM he has always taking care of our best players the extension for Schaub feels like kubiak got him that money but I do believe that in due time we will be praising rick smith and BOB
     
  3. Spacemoth

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    It's funny, when Kubiak was coach we were all hoping that Smith had more autonomy in the draft process. Now that O'Brien is coach, we're all hoping that Smith has none.

    It's great how much we trust this old regime.
     
  4. Fantasma Negro

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    LoL how can you fire the scouts and not the gm? Bob. Has his accountability chart mixed up LoL. I've never heard of a team firing their scouts four months before the draft in which they hold the first pick. This is shameful
     
  5. Jturbofuel

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    These are some of the things that have me thinking we are going to be bad for a while. Rick Smith should have been fired with Kubiak.
     
  6. tmacfor35

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the prior GM canned after the draft? His day still might be coming.
     
  7. tmacfor35

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    But digest this, Fairley/Prince was still on the board at 11. And Smith took Watt, which in my opinion makes up for the last two years of duds.
     
  8. Ottomaton

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    They are director of pro personal and pro scout, meaning they do evaluations of NFL players. The college scouting is different people.
     
  9. Raven

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    He's just a face. I doubt he has much power at all. He kept his job, because McNair knows who made the decisions, and it wasn't him.
     
  10. desihooper

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    Watt was a Wade pick from what was said at the time of the pick.

    Brown was a Gibbs pick and Watt and Mercilius were Wade picks. Cushing was a Bush pick. It is hard to say how much input Smith had especially since he came out and said the coaches had too input.
     
  11. Cannonball

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    Keyshawn Martin was a Kubiak pick, based on a recommendation from Joe Marciano.
     
  12. Remii

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    Wade proved Rick wasn't making the calls when he said Bob said he could get defense with the 1st pick every year.

    But all though Smith didn't have draft decision power he still had to go out and evaluate and find the players that he thought would fit on the team and give the tape to the coaches and let them evaluate them and decide which ones they want.

    And I'm sure Smith kept a list of the players he's responsible for that he advocated to be drafted and or brought in as free agents (like Manning) and the ones that shouldn't have (like Reed). And of guys who they should have paid but let go and of guys that they paid that they shouldn't have.

    I think that's why Smith still has his job. Bob fired Charlie a year after he brought in Kubiak but there's a lot more talent on this team that Smith may have had a hand and finding than when Charlie was here and Smith didn't bust out with a #1 overall pick. Charlie F'd up alot.
     
  13. ipaman

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    I don't think Rick Smith ever claimed to be a personal man or evaluator. He's truly a "manager" and uses his coaches and scouts.
     
  14. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Really? He goes to a ton of college games to... I assume... scout.
     
  15. ipaman

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    He was a safety in college and then coached for a few years at his alma mater Purdue.

    He then joined the Broncos as an assistant coach, won a couple of SBs as an assistant coach, DB coach.

    Then the he moved to the personnel department, he was head of personal department for the Broncos.

    Hired as GM for Texans. Basically Gary "hired" him by bringing his along and giving him his first GM job.

    So you can see he doesn't have a scouting background which is the point I was making. Yes as head of personnel in Denver I'm sure he did some of that but it would have been mostly from his scouts evaluations and inputs. A "manager", which is the point I was making.

    I think here with the Texans he is exactly that, a "Manager" who uses his team for the dirty work. Which is why you are seeing scouts and coaches fired but he has survived.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Nah, he just likes to tailgate and scout the coeds
     
  17. Cannonball

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    Yeah, we know he was at the Louisville-Miami game. I'm pretty sure he was at the UCF-Baylor and UCLA-VaTech games too. Not sure if he was at the A&M-Duke game or not.
     
  18. Jake Tower

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    So Patriots are out... who is O'Brien going to hire?
     
  19. J.R.

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    Not sure if it'll happen or not but look for George Godsey, Patriots TEs coach.

    Not Patriots related: If not Munchak for OL, will he circle back to Brian Ferentz at Iowa? (Or longest of long shots, Dante Scarnecchia, Patriots OL coach.)
     
  20. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I've spoken to Smith at a TAMU game before. He sees plenty of them.
     

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