I would go further than that... A prime Fisher would be the ideal pg on this team.. The leadership of Rondo, the D of Be and the outside 3 of Lin... Morey, go back in time and get'r done.... T_Man
Hey he was a legitimate beast in 2011 Spoiler every night he put on the uniform of a Guangdong Southern Tiger
I don't get the AB hate. He hasn't really regressed as a player since 2009, he's just not used as much. But I admit to not watching as many games back then as now. I can see AB getting the start to see if he can get his rhythym going. If he's cold, swap Lin in there. If Lin is in passive mode, swap Bev. No one should be guaranteed minutes right now. All our PGs have inconsistencies from game to game, except Beverly, but he has no offense and defense is pretty consistent with everyone. The only change to this situation is if we want to resign Lin. If that's the case, we need to get him as many minutes as possible to see if he can develop his game, before we push for the finals.
No, that's exactly my point. A Fisher-type WOULD be the ideal PG for this team as currently constructed (like Bev?). I think overall Lin is better than Fisher ever was, but doesn't suit this team.
I don't see the confusion about AB and the hate he gets. Outside of Garcia, there is not a single player that is so completely and utterly useless on BOTH ends of the court when his shot is cold. Furthermore, his entire offensive game is predicated on his three point shot. He literally offers nothing otherwise.
NO NO and HELL NO!!! Lin is not better than Fisher... Did you see Fisher play in his prime??? Lin is no where close to being on Fisher's level... So please stop trying to compare Lin to Fisher... T_Man
Dude chill out... I grew up in LA during all of Fisher's playing times. I watched those Lakers on KCAL9 (forced to, brother likes Lakers). I do think Lin is better. Lin has the ability to take the reins of the offense (score and assist) and his defense is fine. Switch Lin and Fisher with those Knicks and you think Fisher could take over a game? So, again, I say Lin overall is better, but Fisher is more suited to this team.
My goodness, you guys are definitely not Laker fans. Fisher is a veteran, and has made more of an impact on the NBA scene than any player on the Rockets (why single out Lin, oh that's right, you're an idiot). His skill set and athleticism is still below the NBA average, even in his prime. Stop talking out your ass. He was the Steve Kerr of the Los Angeles Lakers, and I watched Steve Kerr and Fisher in their prime. Has Fisher had clutch moments? Yes, but he was still as slow as a slug. Stop with your idiocy please. All the dudes on this thread, trying to elevate Fisher's status, you guys have seriously bad memories. Fisher's best season was in Golden State, where he averaged 13.3 points on 41% shooting, with 4.3 assists. If Fisher and the Kerr types never were next to HOF players, they would have had the same impact as a Jared Jeffries, coachable players that are leaders in the locker room.
Beverley is a more athletic Derek Fisher. A low cost guy, who doesn't use up too many possessions and has a solid 3 point shot. That's what I believe the Rockets want, to emulate what the Lakers did with the PG position. It's obvious in this spread offense of McHale's, that they really want to take the PG out of the equation. Spend money on your bigs, and get a PG on the cheap. It's not a bad philosophy, but you guys definitely need to stop with marginalizing Lin, by propping up scrubs (this is hypebole, any player in the NBA is a freak athlete with massive talent).
Ok.. First off before you jump in talking crap and calling names, go back and read the entire discussion. First off Dumb @$$ I didn't single out Lin, WaitforIt did.. But no you're so freaking scared that i said something bad about Lin that you just decided to jump in and defend his honor... I don't care how much you guys love Lin, but I for one refuse to sit hear and read statements where statements are made that were untrue... Steve Kerr was brought in as a specialist to do what he did shoot 3's. His job was to make sure that the defense could not just pack in the middle when Jordan drove or pippen slashed. Fisher on the other was hand was the leader on the court, he did what a pg ws suppose to do lead on the court. His job was not to be the primary shooter... hint the phrase SG for SHOOTING GUARD... Fisher was the leader on the court and was a freaking hard nose pest on defense.. So to compare Fisher to Kerr is like comparing apples to oranges... You guys love to put so much stock into freaking stats and I stated before stats don't tell the entire story and Fisher's job was not to score it was to lead the team on the court, get the ball to right person, read the defense and play hard nose defense.. now show me a freaking stat that can calculate that.. There is more to basketball than scoring and some of you need to understand that.... Now back to what I have been saying Lin is not better than Fisher..,. PERIOD!!! T_Man
I'm not merely replying to you, but all the other idiots in this thread. Fisher has had a much better career than Lin, without a doubt. He also played alongside a ball dominant player, who might be one of the 2nd best player of this generation, behind Lebron. Fisher is a less athletic Mario Chalmers, but I think even Chalmers is a better player than Fisher. You need to pick a better player to ride their Di¢k. Using Fisher as your stand for your argument, makes you just a major moron. Pick a more talented player, there's 100s of them out there. Man, you guys are clueless.
This. If I were you, I would not bother wasting further time defending the fact that Fisher in his prime was way better than Lin.
Dude, since you're too lazy to go to the beginning I will do it for you... I didn't pick Fisher.. But i'm not going to sit here and let a false statement be made.. Again, go do some research before you just jump in and start saying crap without knowing how it all started... Nobody is riding anything on Fisher... But i'm not going to take his props away from him... none of the guys you mentioned were even close to being the leader on the floor that Fisher was. When you have a team of scores (which is what the Lakers had) you need a leader on the court.. the same can be said with the Celtics and Rondo... There have always been teams in the NBA, going back to the Sixers vs the Trailblazers... But that sixers team didn't have a leader on the court, so no matter how much of a *itch I thought Fisher was; he was still a good leader. T_Man
The whole premise of this debate is flawed.by saying that the ideal point guard is simply a catch and shoot point guard like Fisher implies that Harden is capable of playing point guard. I hate to break this to people but Harden is NOT a point guard whether he admits it or not.
I will never doubt Fisher's leadership, he's in the league because of his leadership. His on court performance on the other hand, is well documented and I've seen him play enough to know the impact he has on a game. Would the current Rockets be better with Fisher's leadership, possibly. Is he a good PG now? Absolutely not. Was he a good PG in his prime? Didn't think so. He is a leader, and he's a scrappy (dirty?) player. He maximizes what he's been given, something a lot of players in the NBA haven't done. I give Fisher props for making the most of his talents and athleticism, but he has always been a below average PG in my mind, and has done nothing to disprove this.
