Right. My world where insults are universal and responding to those insults whether direct or open discussion is so logically flawed.
So now we find out this freak is a pedophile as well. Not surprised Phil Robertson Suggests Men Marry 15-Year-Old Girls
Oooooooh, so sorry to hear this. http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/-...er-big-ratings-drops-in-return-192414228.html In a much-hyped ratings showdown, "Duck Dynasty" and "American Idol" both lost. Last night's season premieres for both shows were down double-digits from the previous year: "Dynasty" attracted 8.5 million viewers, a steep drop from the 11.8 million that tuned in last August, and "Idol" notched its lowest-rated premiere since Season 1 with just (just?) 15 million viewers. Many expected "Duck Dynasty's" numbers to be goosed (or ducked?) by all the controversy surrounding the show, following dad Phil Robertson's comments about gays and African Americans to GQ last month. (A&E briefly suspended Robertson from filming following protests by advocacy groups, then reinstated him just nine days later.) Despite the media firestorm, advertisers still lined up to buy airtime on "Dynasty," and conservative groups rallied to Phil's defense. But all the hubbub didn't translate into record-setting numbers for A&E, which took a lot of heat for suspending Phil. (Maybe viewers are punishing the network, and not the Robertsons?) It's also worth noting that ratings for "Dynasty" declined all of last season, with 8.9 million tuning in for December's Christmas special, so maybe the Robertsons' down-home charm is just wearing thin.
I, for one, would like to think that a few million Americans were just tired of watching either Louisiana rednecks or washed-up judges gauge the singing talents of nobodies.
For better or worse society and its opinions are constantly changing while religions stay the same. When society claims to be changing to include all ideologies but ridicules those that don't agree with the social norm, its contradicting the whole premise and that's where the biggest problem lies. (As a Christian I have my beliefs and accept others even if their views don't align with mine) Most religious beliefs if not all, are never gonna change and society knows this. So to demonize those who believe a certain "religious" way because it doesn't fit the ever changing social norm, baffles me. We all think differently and always will, point is to continue moving forward without conflict but conflict makes headlines so what can you do.
uhh why?? Social norms change usually for the better because of advancement in humanist ideas. For example: slavery, sex with children under the age of 15, and racial segregation were social norms justified through religion. Humans evolved socially while religious doctrine stayed the same. It makes perfect sense and is reasonable for those who accept the current social norms to detest and mock certain aspects of religion.
Because society claims to be "socially accepting" to all which is not the case, hence the thread. The basis for Christianity for example is God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow so it would be counterintuitive for religion to change with the time because that would mean human thoughts and ideas are greater than those God set forth for us.
Acceptance of hatred seems to be the latest BS approach by conservatives. It's your religion to hate someone and since it's your belief it should be accepted. Nah. Your intolerance of my intolerance is... intolerant! Bahahahaha
Except society NEVER claims to be accepting of "ALL". When the **** did society claim that? Society should NEVER be blanketly accepting of "all". Should society be accepting of pedophiles, rapists, racists, murderers etc?
What does that even mean? You need the a record company to throw a few million at someone and then have the media to tell you that person is a celebrity before you can appreciate good singing talent from someone?
Unknowns would've been a better word. And which American Idol winner from the past few seasons has made much of a cultural impact beyond moving CDs at Target? FOX executives "expect ratings to be down about 20 percent" themselves.
my religion(I dont even call it that) doesnt promote hatred, it actually promotes acceptance for all and to be a good example to others
In all honesty i just dont like the word religion as far as my faith goes, I see it as individual relationship with God and the bible as a road map(know its off topic). There just seems to be an acceptance in society to allow for crude things to be reveled in, while when someone takes a more conservative approach(which is harder to do in today's society) there viewed as intolerant. SUMMARY: I accept all peoples beliefs, doesnt mean I agree with them and that's ok, I shouldnt be ridiculed for that. And the Christians that do ridicule and puff their chest aren't doing what the Bible says and in turn creates a bad image for those that dont agree with certain practices but accept everyone.
Well I think if you watch the videos and read the transcripts that prompted this thread you'll find they are anything but promoting acceptance. So there seems to be a serious conflict between what you believe your religion promotes and what some of its practitioners believe it promotes.
Its an unfortunate reality that there are those that take our Christian views to the extreme and put off a distaste among others. As an individual best I can do is respectfully recognize other people views and hopefully through my actions and personality encourage others to consider what I believe in. If they don't, thats cool and if they do, thats cool.
I agree with you but this thread is 20+ pages long because some are arguing this man's hate speech should have no repercussions for him and his show.
Should he have said things in better taste, absolutely. Do I consider it hate speech, no. I consider hate speech more on the lines of what Martin Bashir said, but that is all subjective. The repercussions were valid because AMC is allowed to do whatever it wants to their clients if they feel they are detrimental to the business. Problem is, AMC knew very well the views of the whole family, thats what made the show popular. They just didnt want them to express them to the general public, which is where I think lies the uproar. This is where I think the contradiction lies though...If he came out and said my family are big believers in Jesus but I do not agree with them im an atheist, no one cares.....But if he says he doesnt believe in gay marriage nor does he believe a man should be with another man, total chaos. People disagree with "religious" doctrine all the time you rarely hear a thing, people disagree with secular doctrine because of their "religious" beliefs and you have a 20 page thread.
