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Teddy Bridgewater or Bust

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Old Man Rock, Dec 3, 2013.

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  1. Remii

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    I'm all for cutting Foster.

    I think it's going to take them a year to get it together. They have over 20 players with none guaranteed money after this year on the roster so the cap issues want be an issue for long.

    I'm not worried about the quarterback position because I have faith in O'Brien. We seen his work personally when some no name quarterback with the Raiders ripped us a new one (and he looked good against Dallas too). A good coach and play caller can make a QB. That's why I hope the Texans trade down and add a bunch of young talent to what we already have.
     
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    the Texans will draft a QB in the 1st round.. Not sure who it will be, but they will.
    Obrien will want to bring a QB he chooses not one already on the roster (not like we have any good ones anyways) also they will not be trading for Mallet- They are not in position to trade picks.. (Especially trade for a QB they will have to pay after this yr..) you have 3 options (Teddy, Manziel or Bortles).. Obrien will study this QB;s and will choose one that he likes.. (Im on the Teddy Bridgewater Train, but it really starting to feel like Manziel might be the pick.. )
     
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    It's more than 3 QBs in this draft and O'Brien will study them all... And he doesn't have complete control of what they do with the 1st round pick. He's made that perfectly clear.
     
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    He should though, Smith and McNair have no idea what to look for in an NFL qb besides his potential revenue potential
     
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    *revenue potential lol
     
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    Hell no he shouldn't... And even if he did that doesn't mean he'll want to draft one of those QBs with the #1 pick. Don't forget that O'Brien played defensive end and LB... So he could fall in love with Clowney and or want to trade down and build up the team.
     
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    As long as it is his decision to make
     
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    He also know that he need s top QB to win in this league.. You can have 2 JJ Watt, and the Texans would still have lost the same amount of points, because of the QB play.. If you cant score you cant win..
     
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    Seattle and San Francisco are playing to go to the super bowl this weekend with 3rd and 2nd round QBs...
     
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    I'll just leave this here.


    Notes: Baseball catcher and football quarterback in high school who was drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 18th round of the June 1995 baseball draft. Opted for football and redshirted at Michigan in ’95. Saw limited action in ’96 and ’97 and started the past two years. Completed 3 of 5 passes for 26 yards, no touchdowns and one interception in ’96, 12-15-103-0-0 in ’97, 214-350-2,636-15-12 in ’98 and 180-295-2,216-16-6 in ’99, when he often shared time with super sophomore Drew Henson. Went all the way against Alabama in the Orange Bowl and completed 34-46-369-4. Unlike many Michigan quarterbacks, Brady is a pocket-type passer who plays best in a dropback-type system.

    Tom Brady Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.

    Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ’99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you’d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can’t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

    Summary: Is not what you’re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.
     
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    Drew Bree's scouting report deserves a good look too... in the same link
     
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    You have to understand the percentage are lower if you draft a QB in the 2nd RD or 3RD... Yes you might be lucky and pick a good QB inb those rounds, but do you really think there's always QBs in the 2nd or 3RD that will pan out.. Im sure the percentage would say that a QB drafted in Round 1 will have a higher chance to suceed than a QB in later RDS.. of course teams will get lucky and pick a QB in later RDS and they pan out, but the chance decrease in later rounds, for any plosition, not just QB's..
     
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    Thanks to Cannonball, this thread shows us percentages and draft results of how likely you are to find a starting NFL QB from round to round.

    Great read for those of us that are uneducated on the subject.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=249124
     
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    Also to add to the above.. The Seahawks had just signed Matt Cassel or Matt Flynn forget which one (And they thought he was going to be there QB... But Wilson beat him out.. If Wilson would have not pan out, Seahawks would had to go with whoever they signed and i dont think they would be where they at.. They did not have a need
    and the 49er's- same boat they had Alex Smith who they drafted with top pick years before, so they didnt have a need, they were basically drafting for back-up.. Kap didnt get his chance until Alex Smith was hurt (Who actually was doing pretty good that year)..

    The Texans on the other habd have a clear need in that position- so you are telling me the Texans should pass up a QB that is rated in the 1st RD (and its cleary there biggest need) for a QB in the 2nd Round (Which has a lesser Percentage of panning out.. It just doesnt make sense to me...
     
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    Any time you draft a QB rather it's with the #1 overall pick or the 199th pick _ if they turn out good, it's a hit... And the only reason the percentages are higher for first round QBs because teams reach more for them out of need. And since 1990 there have only been 2 QBs taking with the #1 overall pick that have won a super bowl out of 14. And out of those 14 over half of them suxked.
     
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    Thanks my point exactly.. its just common sense that a player graded in the 1st Round will have a better chance to pan out...
     
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    so now your saying that teams reach for QB thats why the percentages are better..

    The QB is the most important position on a team.. If you feel comforatble with a QB that is graded in the first round you take him (Who cares if your reaching or not)
    Chances are that guy will be there in the 2nd RD..

    Example: If Texans pass on Teddy, Bortles, Manziel because they think there are reaching- Do you think they will be there in the 2nd RD... someone will reach regardless.. Its about taking risk. I would rather have the Texans take that risk on one of those QB's, than any other team. Especially teams in our division.
     
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    You said a new coach wants his own QB... Smith suxked and Harbough's first year there he drafted Kaepernick. Locker, Ponder, and Gabbert were rated as 1st round picks and all 3 of them have been garbage _ so it's obvious Harbough had Kaepernick rated higher than them...

    And that's why it doesn't make since to you because you're putting too much stock into Mel's, Tod's, and .com scouts rankings. It's the NFL teams rankings that count and many teams view players differently.
     
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    Fixed
     
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