Yea... People THINK this team has alot of talent and it doesn't. Heck, Jackson is our 2nd best defensive player... Lol... Well, if they draft Bridgewater _ he BETTER be able to walk on water and carry a team on his back like you guys say he can out the gate or this fan base will kill him.
That's completely wrong, this team has talent. Also our 2nd best defensive player is Brian Cushing not Kareem Jackson.
Jackson? You prove yet again, you know little about football. JJ Watt, Antonio Smith, Brian Cushing, Jonathan Joseph, and Daniel Manning could all be considered better players. Joseph was injured this year, but when healthy, he is a top 10 corner.
Brian Cushing is hurt... And he looked mediocre before he got hurt again. So Jackson is... Foster is hurt as well... Neither one of those dudes may never be the same and making BIG MONEY. This is no Kansas City situation.
Antonio is a free agent. Joseph is an overpaid #2 corner and has been injured the past 2 years. I'm not holding my breath. Manning may can come back strong though.
Just as you stated before **** happens, unfortunately for Cushing it happened two years in a row. If it weren't for people cut blocking, he would more than likely have to more solid years under his belt. Explain how he looked "mediocre" after he returned from his initial injury, what do you base that on? And also, no Jackson still isn't, just cause people are hurt doesn't make them banished from the team and never to be seen or heard from again. Cushing will be back, Manning will be back, even Foster will be back (if his wife permits ). This team has talent on offense and defense, debilitating injuries as well as horrible coaching and QB play killed our season. That doesn't mean there's absolutely NO TALENT whatsoever, left.
Cushing didn't look like CUSHING... And even if him and Foster get healthy and stay healthy (which I doubt with Foster) _ with them not playing for so long _ it's going to take them time to reach their pro bowl levels (if they can). And I never said this team has no talent whatsoever. Just not as much that people think. But I like the new coaching staff so hopefully they can work some magic.
Texans have talent, people ignore that they (esp. the defense) QUIT on Kubiak and Schaub after the middle of the year. Injuries happened too. Our defense was pretty good until they realized that no matter what they did Schaub was going to cost the team points by throwing pick 6s.
I honestly don't know what that means, regarding Cushing. The team has just as much talent as everyone sees, we know they did not live up to expectations, which were to at the least be a playoff contending team. Regarding their injuries, by the time training camp rolls around they (Cushing and Foster) should be nearing 100%, if they already hadn't. Their injuries weren't of the Adrian Peterson variety were he tore his ACL at the end of the year and was pushing it to come back fully healthy thru the preseason. I agree that the new coaching staff will help these guys piece what talent they have back together and become what we know they are capable of. I don't see this as being a rebuild but as a retool and reload. Especially if some of the second year players come in and contribute the way we expected them to in their rookie seasons.
When you say what "WE" expect out of these players doesn't include "ME"... I'm not the type of fan who over values our players like most fans in Houston do. I don't have the faith that repeatedly injured players will be back to pro bowl level no matter how much I may like them. Just hoping that this new coaching staff can coach up the young guys, make smart draft picks (which they didn't do last year) and bring in some cheap free agents and make something happen.
When you say what "WE" expect out of these players doesn't include "ME"... I'm not the type of fan who over values our players like most fans in Houston do. I don't have the faith that repeatedly injured players will be back to pro bowl level no matter how much I may like them. Just hoping that this new coaching staff can coach up the young guys, make smart draft picks (which they didn't do last year) and bring in some cheap free agents and make something happen. And if they can win 5-7 games and show an upward movement I would be happy. But I'm not expecting a one year turn around.
Antonio will most likely be retained. Pending on the system we run. Wasn't he rated as one of the best 3-4 ends in football? Joseph is a number one when healthy. Guy is pretty good when healthy. Manning is a guy you worry about health wise, but he adds the toughness/leadership they need at the safety position.
No one is overvaluing them. We expect them to do the best they can to recover from injury and get to the level they were at, if they don't then we will have to find talent by other means; draft, free agency, or trade. I was already debating with the people here at my work whether we should cut or retain Foster after this season. I was for cutting him and eating the dead money but others believe he can still contribute. Given the mileage and ware on his tread I don't expect him to return to being the Arian Foster of old, just to contribute (if he is retained). Cushing is our best linebacker and I do not expect us to leave the draft without another starting caliber MLB. It would help as insurance as well as in the long run against the better offenses in the AFC. Overall I believe we can return to playoff contention level with smart picks and signings, but I believe that rookie class from last year could give us a much needed boost if they produce as expected. There are lots of ifs around this team, which is what you get out of any 2-14 team, but their is still upside to what we have as far as players goes. Just gotta make it all mesh.
I believe that the general thought is that Smith, OD, and potentially Manning will all be cap casualties. All the more reason that Rick Smith should have been let go with Kubes if you ask me!!!
Rick Smith did a good job. He built a very good team that was in my opinion Superbowl Contenders until Schaub snapped his foot in half. I don't think any of the contracts Smith did were unreasonable. Even though he gave Schaub great money, Matt's contract is going to be pretty easy to get out of this offseason. He even got the best player out of the 11' draft picking at number 11. Rick has done fine, it is a coach and QB problem at this point.
Maybe. I'm sure he was one of the best defensive ends at getting penalties...Lol. I doubt the Texans can afford the Ninja though. It may be other teams throwing money at him.
I agree the Watt pick was nice, but if you give him credit for that he should also get the blame for all the dumb draft picks (Okoye, Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael, Sam Montgomery....) All in all I hope you are right that it was all on the coach and QB (I do agree that a lot had to do with Kube and Schaub, but I think Smith gets a free pass way too often)
Unless Smith is willing to take a huge pay cut, he wont be coming back. He made about 9 million last season...if he's okay with 4 million or less, then he'll be back. No way we can afford to pay him more than that. I think Manning is also a potential cap casualty. OD is gone imo. Joseph will be a Texan for one more season.
Pretty much. I think Antonio won't get more than 5 million anywhere else. JJ's greatness overshadows the fact that teams spend a lot of attention on Antonio. OD is absolutely gone, Manning is cut pending on how his recovery goes. I think Joseph stays as well, and I look forward to Bryce McCain getting back on track this year. People forget he was a VERY good nickel corner until he broke his foot. Broken bones usually take a year to recover from.
