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Retired cop guns down man for texting at Florida movie

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rocket River, Jan 13, 2014.

  1. YallMean

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    SMH, SMH, oh, well.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    He doesn't intend to enforce it. Allowing cops to have guns there kills his entire premise. Guns will still go in, people will still be shot. No one has guns inside the secure confines of a prison, includes police officers.
     
  3. The Real Shady

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    Someone who would have the balls to say to another person, "Hey, *******, stop texting in the damn theatre!" would not go taddle to the manager to get help with a situation. They would have dealt with that person right there because they wanted a fight.
     
  4. dandorotik

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    That's not necessarily true. I've seen people complain to someone about their behavior, then go get a manager (at a Mr. Gatti's restaurant). You can't make that judgment about everyone. Or maybe he said, "turn off your GD phone" b4 getting the manager. Old man wasn't looking for a fight, but that doesn't mean he wasn't rude. All we know is 1 man is dead and another's life is ruined.

    And both situations could have been avoided if the old man didn't use his gun.
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Of course people should be careful how far they take confrontations with people. As someone who teaches self-defense I preach this constantly. I am not advocating that people shouldn't treat people with respect and courtesy but I don't think fear of being shot should be something that motivates people. For one and you as a responsible gun owner probably know is that living in fear is what potentially could lead to more irresponsible use of guns.

    First people should treat people with respect and courtesy for no other reason than because that is the right thing to do. Besides though the consequence in a case like that should be being asked by the staff to leave the premises or if they refuse being arrested for disorderly conduct. In almost every case there are ways of dealing with jerks without resorting to violence. In a case like this so many are placing the onus on the victim when the bulk of the responsibility falls on the perpetrator.
     
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    That article is hilarious, to an extent. Talking about how the woman noticed about the shooting WHILE CHECKING FACEBOOK WHILE DRIVING. Then, she had to text her friend to ask for a picture of the shooter. And when she saw it, she then, finally had to pull over to read it.

    So, this woman was texting in the theater and making this psycho former cop mad.

    Next week, she's driving her car, cruising Facebook, and texting her friend asking for his picture to confirm he's the one that turned her in for texting in the theater.

    Quick, someone read this to psycho cop, and see what he does. I bet he Hulk smashes his way out of the prison to get retribution on that woman.
     
  7. dachuda86

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/07koWDo7-P0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  8. crash5179

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    So you think the old man went into the theater with the intent of killing the young man regardless if there was a confrontation or not? SMH :rolleyes:
     
  9. crash5179

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    Certainly as someone who teaches self defense, one of the first things you teach is not to escalate the situation and in fact defuse the situation if at all possible right?
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    Allowing on duty cops to have guns there doesn't kill my entire premise at all. First of all, how often would an on duty cop be inside a movie theater?

    I think almost never unless they were investigating a crime that had happened.

    Secondly, if there are no guns inside the theater why would an on duty cop need to shoot someone?
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    But it isn't logical that a random nutjob wants to attack you. That's the whole point. Random nutjobs almost never attack you, certainly to the point where your life is threatened.
     
  12. superfob

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    Bolded to highlight the exact problem. It doesn't matter how the other party reacts verbally to your rudeness. Own up to the fact that you caused an annoyance to someone else in a public space and be courteous to stop it. That doesn't make you a p***y, it makes you a considerate member of society.

    If you cut someone off on the freeway and react to them honking the horn by giving them the finger as you slam the breaks and stop short, yeah, you just might get shot by someone raging.

    Cop obviously has some anger management issues and an authority complex. Nothing side justifies his actions, just gives a clue on how this happened.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    Cops shoot and kill unarmed people every day.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    In the United States, it doesn't happen frequently, and none of the studies I've seen have shown it happening daily.

    So how likely is it that on duty cops would shoot an unarmed suspect in a movie theater? Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? I've seen nothing to point out that it would happen.
     
  15. YallMean

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    It's your opinion that texting in the theater during a preview is so inconsiderate that the guy is in the wrong in the first place for what happened. Inconsiderate is such a subjective thing. To me, possible verbal abuse, reporting it to a movie theater manager trying to kick the guy out over the texting is inconsiderate. Sensitive people can be annoyed just by anything. To many of us, texting is not bothering at all. People are getting flashed by the big screen in the theater anyways, what's a little flash from a 5 inch phone screen. It cannot be THAT bad. Flashing all that to me is just pretense.
     
  16. crash5179

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    I never said the ass whole was responsible for what happened. I said he was an inconsiderate ass and IMO he could have prevented the incident with a just a tad bit of consideration.

    Don't pretend like I said something that I did not. There is a huge difference between me saying that it was the jerks fault he got shot and he could have prevented it. The old man was apparently on some texting crusade to begin with and he did not have just cause to pull out his gun and shoot the jerk.

    I have stated many time (and I think this whole incedent proves it) when you are an ass to people you don't know, you could be taking your life into your own hands. There is no Law against being a jerk or being inconsiderate but that does not prevent some people from going psycho when it happens.

    The guy was a jerk. The movie theater was not his personal living room. There were other patrons there trying to enjoy the movie. He was doing something that is recognized as an "edicate no no" in movie theaters. He was asked to stop and he didn't, nor did he take his texting to the lobby. Furthermore he ingaged the old man for complaining to the theater management, why? Because he was being a jerk.

    I have a real hard time feeling sorry for guys that are being jerks when it back fires on them. No I do not think he is to blame for his own death, but him being inconsiderate was the fuse that ignited the psychopathic old man. He's not responsible for the old man being a psychopath but he probably could have prevented the outcome with a little consideratioin (just my oppinion).
     
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    Bravo, Paul Kersey.
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    Your premise of no guns falls down.


    So you are left with some guns and some shootings and the profound promise of no shootings goes away. If follows that if you accept some guns and some shootings, some other people will want their guns.
     

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