The same can be said about Louis Nix... And he may help the defense more than Clowney or Barr. With Nix in the middle of the line with J.J. next to him _ Merciless might turn into a Clowney/Barr type player because there will be no one to block him. Clowney and Barr are the sexy position players in this draft but Nix can arguably be the BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER in this draft and could help the Texans more than Clowney or Barr.
you could argue that getting the 1st pick doesn't happen often so when you get the #1 overall you swing for the fences. conversely if you have pick 2-10 for example, you pick the safe sure thing.
Still not sure. I think I previously said this is a terrible year for the number one pick because there is no standout or consensus prospect. Clowney - Seems like another Mario Williams pick to me. While not the worst pick in the world, ehh, he is what he is. He'll probably be a good to pretty good player. Not as good, great or elite like the hype was last year (leading into this college football season). Matthews - One of the top linemen but not in the conversation. Barr - While once talked about as a top prospect during the season, not even in the conversation. Barely a peep about this guy. Bortles - I don't really want him, to be honest. Maybe he proves me and everyone else (who doesn't want/like him) wrong in time . I would tend to agree with those who are wary of him - a guy who kinda came out of nowhere, and now he's a top five pick or the first overall pick? Bridgewater - I don't know. No feeling one way or the other. Like Manziel, questions about his size or body frame? And hand size? If you can tell me he's Aaron Rodgers like Bucky Brooks said, ha, sign me up! And finally, Mr. Tim Tebow himself. The guy I'm most familiar with: Manziel - I was on the bandwagon during the season. Then jumped off late during the season. And I've recently said he's the ultimate wildcard and I didn't want to take a chance on a wildcard at one. But now I'm open to it. Durability is absolutely concern. Can he, will he last 16 games (+ the playoffs)? He's gonna have to change his game up a bit, which I thought he did a good job of this year. Less running, less scrambling, more pocket passing. More sliding, more getting out of bounds, not fighting for the extra yards. He could get away with it in college, but no more loopty-loops, running around the field. People(myself included) blasted or made fun of Schaub for going fetal at the first sign of pressure, but that compared to Keenum, who ran straight backwards and took a loss of 15-20 for the sack, NO!, (Manziel) can't do that. Manziel also has a tendency of maybe trying to force things. Interceptions were slightly up this year. He had 4 games of two interceptions or more. If it ain't there, it's okay to throw it away. vs Sam Houston - 1 INT(INT in the RZ) vs Alabama - 2 INT(1 INT in the RZ, 1 pick-six) vs SMU - 1 INT(1 INT just outside the RZ at the 21 but it was 2nd and goal) vs Ole Miss - 1 INT(INT in the RZ) vs Auburn - 2 INT(both in opponent's field) vs Vanderbilt - 1 INT vs Mississippi State - 3 INT(1 INT in the RZ, 1 opponent's field) vs LSU - 2 INT(1 INT in the RZ) So I guess what I'm getting at: play smarter, don't force things, throw it away if you have to. Not only are you turning the ball over, you're taking points off the board(in the RZ). (Some of those may have been tipped balls or balls off the receivers hands or what not but the point remains the same.) One more thing, outside of durability, my other concern is Manziel off the field. Yes, I am one of those people. Will he slow down? Will he grow up? Will he mature? (In before "Ahh, he's just a kid, he's done nothing wrong. Let him be. Blah blah blah") That's the same thing he said before the season. "I'm a 20 year old, I'm a 20 year old kid. I hope people see that." Okay? I'm not going to say for the wrong reasons but this guy (was) always in the news. For me I guess it comes down to (in no order) Bridgewater and Manziel. I guess throw in Clowney if you want a top three. Bridgewater seems to be the "safe" pick. If you want the wildcard, go Manziel. (And as someone previously brought up, none of these guys are safe, they can all bust (or boom). Sure, true, I guess.)
I would not take Manziel #1 based on the Tebow, VY experiences. Bridgewater or Clowney would be better choice, but I would not mind taking Manziel if Texans trade the pick down to get additional player.
Not with VY... His skills did fit the NFL. His winning record shows it. It's his mentality and work ethic that didn't fit the NFL.
He has Teddy ranked # 1 in his QB rankings? And you say that Jaguars dont even want him.. Dont you think its weird he ranks Teddy # 1 but has him going after two other QB;s lol
I actually don't care about people like Mel's rankings. He's never developed a NFL QB or put an NFL team together. And obviously teams like Houston, Rams, Cleveland, and the Raiders don't care about his rankings either according to his own mock draft so why do you...???
Yes or no, depending on the people who were evaluating the players when I watched ESPN. Clearly Manziel skill should fit NEL better, but Bridagewater is listed at #1 as a NEL qb, I feel more comfortable to take him.
VY was not accurate which is an important skill in the NFL. That accuracy issue was on top of the other issues you mentioned. Bridgewater and Johnny have way better accuracy, especially Bridgewater.
Running is a big part of game for VY and Johnny, but in the NEL, it is very hard to run like the college game, therefore some people argue that Johnny has more chance to get injured than Bridgewater.
You put anyone in a **** offensive line like we have and they'll have a high chance of getting injured. It's all about coaching.
Just the same VY won games and got a team to the playoffs and helped CK2 get PAID... His accuracy had to do with his work ethic (or lack thereof). It's a lot of QBs who come out the draft that have to work on their accuracy. Like Cam for example and plenty others. And I wasn't comparing Johnny and Bridgewater to VY. Those two kids haven't touched an NFL field yet so I can't. College accuracy and NFL accuracy are two totally different animals.
When people talk "upside" for QB's. It is borderline nonsensical. Tell me how you rated the "upside" of Tom Brady or Drew Brees. Even today, using the criteria people use, you would have to rate them as two of the lowest "upside" QB'S around, yet they are two of the best. What does that tell me? Measuring physical tools and calculating "upside potential" is useless. It's like measuring Garry Kasparov's 40 time and BMI to determine his "upside" as a chess player. The criteria that people use makes the concept irrelevant to reality.
I was just responding to the VY vs Tebow quote. And I wouldn't field comfortable with drafting any of these QBs in the first round. I would rather take my chances with guys like Boyd, Murray, and Jimmy Garoppolo in a later round and let O'Brien do what he's getting paid to do.
Remii.. you complain about Bridgewater not dominating in a weaker conference. But do you not think part of the reason is because of the talent around him? What great offensive talents does Bridgewater have around him? His offensive line isn't great, his wide receivers aren't nearly as good as Manziel's are, coaches, etc etc.
