Retired cop guns down man for texting at Florida movie

How many times have you heard of a CHL carrier losing it in a fit of rage and shooting someone.

Take a look at this 2012 info.

http://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/CHL/Reports/ConvictionRatesReport2012.pdf

 

Same thing. Do you know me, or any CHL holder. How can you judge me by someone else's actions?

All men have a penis. Some guys, in a fit of passion, or whatever got them going, have sexually assaulted others. Does that mean all men are not to be trusted.

 

Sure you could live in a constant state of fear.

If talking back and escalating the situation is something you value, then I guess you could always walk around with body armor.

Leaving emotions aside, you could examine this as an unfortunate incident and not some trend of movie texters getting shot by retired policemen that is sweeping the nation.

This is a weird stance to take when people get shot and killed while running from the police or resisting arrest. Death shouldn't be an acceptable outcome for that but it happens. I think most people accept that it happens, and can say it's probably not a good idea.

Life is cheap, and you need to look out for yourself. As someone said you can't control the actions of others.

 

If there is no gun in a theater it isn't possible for shootings to take place in the theater, so what is delusional is your thought that it's delusional.

If there's no gun in a restaurant then nobody would be shot there either.

It's pretty logical that if there are no guns some place there will be no shooting at that place.

Yes, people do break rules, but when people break rules of a theater they shouldn't be shot and killed. Not having a gun at the theater would prevent that from happening.

 

Bottom line is that there's truly no lesson to be learned from this incident. It's not going to stop people from texting in theatres (ejection from the theatres might do it), and it's not going to stop crazy people from being crazy- for the most part.

 

Are you advocating TSA security measures for all theaters and restaurants?

 

unless you have never been an jerk to anyone in your life, I do not understand how you can not fully sympathize with the man that got shot

 

I still think there's something about owning up to your actions and general empthy.

Even if the shooter responded to the texting in a rude or aggressive manner, if the texter owned up to the action of texting and apologized or went outside to finish texting, he would've defused the situation.

There's being a jerk, and then there's doubling down on being a jerk.

 

i sympathize with the murder. I have had murderous thoughts when people interrupt my movies. Especially the crying babies.


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Come at me you morally superior douchebags. I have given you the green light with this comment.

 

Anyone else ever had sex in a movie theater?

 

I still don't see I said anything incorrect. Your argument is look at the numbers. My argument is not about numbers. It's about setting up the scenario. Most of you have already admitted that if he didn't have the gun...then this wouldn't have happened. I do think every man has his breaking point and, just by having the gun on him, he's not always going to be responsible by it because carrying requires the responsibility that goes with that privilege. All of you seem to recognize that. Yes, in most normal scenarios, this would never happen. But, this wasn't a normal scenario that CHL carriers encounter a lot. Does this particular person maybe feel that by carrying the gun he felt he had more power to speak up against a texter in a movie theater because he knows what he has on him and can defend himself regardless? Possibly. Do you argue that carrying a gun around doesn't give you the feeling that you are wielding more power than the person who is not carrying a gun around? Would it possibly lead to you doing or saying things you might not otherwise do or say if you didn't have the gun? Does that mean I'm against CHL carriers? No, I'm not. I'm just asking the questions that should be asked when stuff like this happens. By your own PDF, statistically it is insignificant but it does happen and it may well have happened even if the person wasn't a legal carrier. I admit that. But, I don't think you should be so quick to dismiss that, in the right set of circumstances, a responsible CHL carrier who everyone thought would never be capable of doing something like this can turn irresponsible. Maybe he had an undiagnosed mental condition? But, the fact is a former cop who spent years protecting the people and enforcing laws did this...and there is currently no good reason why. He did not live up to his responsibility as a CHL carrier. That doesn't mean I think most also will not. It just means I think people who are otherwise responsible can have their buttons pushed and having the gun on them empowers them to possibly go over the edge like this guy. Obviously, with criminals, that happens quite often. It's not that big a leap to say it could happen with legal carriers in the right situations even if there is no history that the person could do such a thing. Every man has his breaking point where they've had enough.

 

People who don't seem to have their emotions in check and/or drink heavily/use substances probably shouldn't carry guns.

 

Yes. And someone was blasted in the chest too.

 

Well i'm glad when he pulled out you were able to turn around so you avoided getting a white streak up your back

 

LOL! I was going to comment something on "shooting." Good one, sir. :grin:

Anyway: White Stallion Theater?

Spoiler

 

Agreed. Cops shouldn't carry guns.

 

With someone else or solo?

 

I also said if the guy wasn't texting, this wouldn't have happened.

The chl holders I know are actually more prone to avoid a confrontation because of what it can escalate to.

I admit every man has his breaking point. This is the exact reason that I don't provoke anyone. I know there are people with guns out there, and I don't want to be put in this situation. Additionally, even if others are not carrying a weapon, I do not want to be put into a situation where I would have to resort to pulling my weapon if I feared being incapacitated and disarmed.

 

Stop saying that because it's not true. Dragician says it was justified.

Also, it's one thing to simply state that you need to be careful how you act in public because you never know what crazy person you run into. It's another to say, like crash, that you have absolutely no sympathy for that person when they get killed.

 

A movie theater is a private place owned by a business that allows people to enter their private property if you pay a fee.