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Teddy Bridgewater or Bust

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Old Man Rock, Dec 3, 2013.

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  1. M.G.

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    I understand your point, but it sounds like your making more of an argument for Bridgewater than Manziel. Johnny was the great college player who wowed everyone with awesome escapability and impressive arm strength and accuracy.

    Bridgewater was more quiet on terms of a national audience, as his game didn't have that "wow" factor like Manziel's. His skill-set--changing play at the LOS, moving quickly through progressions, running a pro style offense--is much better suited to the NFL than college. Those are the measurebles scouts are looking for, not the "wow" factor; everyone can see that.
     
  2. Remii

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    I don't think it's fair to judge Teddy or any young kid off how they sound with a camera in their face. And as long as his teammates believe in him _ doesn't that matter more than his personality...??? And I will say it says a lot about Teddy because he had other Florida kids that followed him to Louisville.
     
  3. htown1984

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    Remii are you changing your pick to Teddy now :) have we finally convinced you lol
    j/k
     
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    Well i mean they both played Florida last yr, one was at a neutral site, he won. One was at home, he lost.

    Teddy did dominate though, and he may have had "cupcake" teams but you could argue he also had "cupcake" talent surrounding him.

    Johnny will have played behind close to 4 first round lineman in only 2 years, yet he wasn't a pocket passer. You don't think teddy would've thrived too behind a line like that?

    And johnny did disappoint, against LSU twice, he threw two big picks against Bama, and played poor against Auburn and Mizzou.

    Teddy threw like 4 picks this past year and i believe 2 of those were off the wr's(not saying some of jffs weren't the same case), that's a stat that really sticks out to me.

    Johnny was great and the most exciting player to watch, and i actually do think he'll see success in the NFL, i just don't think right now he's worth the number one pick and as ready as Teddy is.
     
  5. Remii

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    Lol.. I never said Teddy would be garbage at the next level. But I just don't think the reasons you guys give aren't good enough reasons to pass up on Johnny to draft Teddy if the Texans decide to take a QB with that 1st pick.
     
  6. Remii

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    Wasn't the game against Florida Johnny's 1st ever game (or 2nd) in college...? If so _ terrible example. And Teddy did nothing against Florida to warrant a #1 overall pick and he was yuk against Houston for a player with his experience. And Johnny didn't throw a pick against Florida either but Teddy did and Johnny played Florida at a time in the season when they were considered a much better team.

    How good did that A&M lineman do this year in the NFL that got drafted high in the 1st round last year....? He looked more like a 3rd round pick. Johnny moves around too much to tell how good those guys are. As I asked before _ how good did that O-Line block without Johnny against Rice...?

    Teddy may be better at the next level. But I think it's a lot more than A&M hype why some fans want Johnny over Teddy... Especially in Cleveland and Florida.
     
  7. Sooty

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    You keep bringing up the Houston game, why? Houston was number 2 in the nation for interceptions and 26th overall defense. You've merely pick one bad game of his and it wasn't even that bad.

    You talk about cupcake teams and the reason he is rated so highly. People like Case Keenum and Graham Harrell threw ridiculous numbers against "cupcake" teams and they were even in consideration for the first pick. Accounts consider Bridgewater's tools translatable to the next level, hence he is rated at the top. Sure it would have been NICE to see him play against great teams but it didn't happen and there isn't much at all he did that was considered bad or to call him anything but a top flight prospect.
     
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    Dude, why do you keep bringing this crap up? Do you even know what you're talking about? The guy missed 70% of the season and you're saying he looked like a 3rd rounder? When he got injured and was lost for the season, it was a big blow to the Jaguars line. Stop talking BS.
     
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    you are a racist.

    i remember your "gorilla cookie" comment about Teddy.

    i can't believe you are still around....
     
  10. DAROckets

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    You are a moron

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  11. HTown_DieHard

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    uhhh so this makes your racist comment OK?

    i guess that's why it was removed, huh?

    also... times have changed.. you will never see anything like that on TV nowadays.

    i know the context you used it in.. the hate you implied... the inner rage you have when thinking about Bridgewater as the Texans QB for the next 10+ years.

    we all know you as a racist. and no youtube clip will change that.
     
  12. DAROckets

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    lmao it was a joke about him making an ugly woman .. get over yourself .. inner rage wtf :rolleyes:
     
  13. Remii

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    Houston was the best defense he has faced this year and although his team won he didn't show up. Do you think teams aren't going to pay attention to that game...? Have you heard of any other teams talking about trading up to get Bridgewater...? I haven't.
     
  14. Remii

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    You say losing Luke was a big blow when the line suxked the first 5 games with him and looked better the last half of the season without him. I don't watch a bunch of Jags games so I won't argue with you... But really there's no need to :)
     
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    Our offensive line blows despite having Duane Brown. The guy barely played and you're saying he looked like a 3rd rounder.
     
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    Ok. I'll reply once you get back to me on my questions. Honestly, don't think you're anything more than a troll! Weren't you the one who said UH was crap?



     
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    Lets not sit here and act like JF went undefeated. You sure like to harp on TB vs UH but you conveniently forget the goose-egg manziel laid against LSU going 16-40.

    And about Teddy "not dominating".... Do you even know what foot ball is? The same Teddy bridgewater that went 12-1, 71% passer rating, 31 TD's and ONLY 4 int's wasn't dominating?!?

    But no Remii says he played a cupcake schedule, well newsflash not all the QB's in the nfl COME FROM THE SEC.

    Here is a handy graphic (it's obvious you don't like reading)

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    OH WOW OMG only 5/30 QB's are from the sec!!

    Such Surprise! WoW!

    Now let me clarify some things. I think JF and TB are the BEST QB prospects in this draft. But i give the edge to TB because he is a much more polished pocket passer, has shown the ability to have an excellent football mind, and is a very high character blue-collar worker whose personality fits very well into our core group of players.

    Yeah these other "measurables" you descibe, Teddy has all of them. Far more than manziel.

    Lets do a recap.

    History of Misconduct - Manziel

    Football IQ - Bridgewater

    Ability to run a Pro-style offense - TB

    Ability to make plays with feet - Manziel

    Ability to throw on the move - TB (81% completion rating)

    Clutch Factor - Even with Both
     
  18. M.G.

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    Probably haven't heard any rumors about teams trying to trade up because... well.. the Combine hasn't even happened yet. Give it time. We'll hear all sorts of wild rumors and most likely hardly any of them will be based on fact.
     
  19. Remii

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    Teddy is a 3 year player. Johnny only two. And Johnny may would have had less interceptions if he got to play Teddy's competition and vice versa. Also Johnny threw for more yards and their #s aren't too far off across the board and Johnny played in a harder conference. I don't argue that Teddy may be more NFL ready _ I just argue that doesn't make him the better player.

    Also, look at some of these young QBs. Cam, Kapernick, Russell, RG3, and Luck are all mobile QBs. Johnny has shown us he's the closest to them. Johnny is a not as fast, just as quick and illusive, and a better passing version of Mike Vick. The only thing we can really say about Teddy is he has good mechanics, played in a pro style offense, and called his own plays _ Mehhhhh..... And trying to overcome a terrible offensive line, no running game, and no speed in the receiving core may be harder for Teddy to overcome than Johnny.

    But you could be right about Teddy. Who knows. But I have no argument with you about Johnny not being worth the #1 pick because I want the Texans to trade the pick.
     
  20. DAROckets

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    So AAC Zero ? .. ok
     
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