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Chris Christie traffic scandal: An end to presidential plans?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    Serious question: What narrative did people already have of Christie? A bully?
     
  3. KingCheetah

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    The only true narrative the US knows about Christie is his positive relationship with Obama during SS Sandy -- this scandal will pass unless an email comes out from him telling his subs to close the lanes... He's done if that happens.
     
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    I feel exactly the same: Only a smoking gun kills Christie and there is plenty of time to get past this.

    But NJ is NJ and if something else significant comes out of the closet, he won't have any slack line left.
     
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    One problem is that this will probably be the first that many people who don't follow politics super closely will hear of Christie. I saw it written somewhere that his support wasn't "deep". Up until now, people haven't had much to dislike about him, which was enough to be a big advantage among the potential Republican candidates. This might not sink him, but it will make it harder for him to win by default just by virtue of not being awful, a la Romney.
     
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    And you are the most hilarious person here.
     
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    I disliked Christie before this ever happened but honestly, this whole traffic "scandal" seems like much ado about nothing.

    To call it a scandal in the wake of Benghazi, Obamacare, IRS targeting conservatives, Fast and Furious, Justice Dept targeting reporters and the AP, etc, etc is kind of underwhelming to say the most and laughable to say the least.
     
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    If evidence surfaces revealing that Christie was either behind this or knew about it, it IS a major scandal and his political career will likely be over. For a governor to pull a stunt like this to get back at a political opponent constitutes a pretty serious abuse of power in my book. It was stupid when people tried to make a big deal of the helicopter thing a few years ago, but this is a legitimate abuse of office if there's proof of his involvement.

    That said, if they can't find anything directly implicating him, this will probably be forgotten. But he'll certainly be under a microscope for a bit, and while others have stated that he can't afford another screwups like this, I wouldn't be surprised if some investigation reveals that this isn't his first offense (or second, third, or fourth...)

    Right now he's a fat man on thin ice.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Which of those scandals held up as legitimate and implicated Obama?
     
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    Just Obamacare website roll-out being a disaster, but that's not really a scandal more of a colossal mismanagement.
     
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    attempt to divert
     
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    None of those stuck. Obama's big flows are the initial Obamacare launch and the overall economy- and the UE is going down, so by the time Hillary runs, if she does... oh, boy. What will the 'Pubs do with another 4 years of a Dem President?
     
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    The real question is whether the United States could survive another four years of Far Left Democratic rule.
     
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    Thousands died from a terrorist attack on US soil the last time Republicans were in power.
     
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    Another post that shows how out of touch the right is.

    Laughable that anyone would think Obama was of the "far left"

    Anyway, we survived 8 years of Bush, you'll survive 16 years of democratic leadership.
     
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    George Orwell's "1984" was a foreshadowing of the Obama administration and your type of thinking. Just as the Ministry of Truth was predicated on lies, you would have people believe that Obama is not "far left" only because you are extreme falling off the edge left.
     
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    Obama's policies are what keeps him from being far left. There have been studies on it as well. Democrats having been moving to the right/center for decades.
     
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    From our esteemed friend Nate Sliver of 538.com.

    "Mr. Obama, according to the system, rates as being slightly more conservative than Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and John F. Kennedy, but slightly more liberal than Lyndon B. Johnson, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman — although all of the scores among Democratic presidents are close and generally within the system’s margin of sampling error."

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/29/how-liberal-is-president-obama/?_r=0

    And the WaPo writes this article

    Obama revealed: A moderate Republican

    We’ve obsessed over every answer except the right one: President Obama, if you look closely at his positions, is a moderate Republican of the early 1990s. And the Republican Party he’s facing has abandoned many of its best ideas in its effort to oppose him.


    My suggestion is that you stop with the FOX news and Drudges of the world and, in the words of a certain poster here, begin the think more critically about your opinions.
     
  20. thumbs

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    Can you end your slavish adiction to the Huffington Post, New York Times et al and "think more critically about your opinions?"
     

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