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Add Ricky Rubio to the list of Wolves draft mistakes

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Ming The King, Jan 10, 2014.

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  1. Sydeffect

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    Understand one thing, the 35% 3 point shooting comes from being wide open all the time from 3. Everyone backs off of him and lets him shoot it.
     
  2. tehG l i d e

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    1. he is 33.9% from 3
    2. they're wide open
    3. he makes .6 per game meaning he doesn't shoot many and won't shoot them unless they're wide open
     
  3. DonatasFanboy

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    Yep. It's easy to say 'sag off him and defend the pass' but not so easy to do, when the player is so brilliant that he still finds the pass. The Rockets would have to surround him with 3 shooters though ideally, maybe Parsons at 4.

    But of course getting him -- if possible at all -- would be very costly.
     
  4. jtr

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    Rubio has put up a grand total of 59 3FGA this season. Bev has 105. Given how much space Rubio is given by the defense he obviously has no confidence shooting the 3. Also he cannot finish at the rim. Why would the Rockets trade Lin, a PG that is better than Rubio at the 3 and can finish at the rim with the best of the league??? Also with Parsons and Harden being so great at getting assists the Rockets have little use for an above average assist PG.
     
  5. aelliott

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    The obvious benefit would be to get the ball to Dwight Howard. Rubio's biggest weakness is his shooting but despite that he still makes his team's offense go.

    Minnesote is #2 in the league in scoring (1 1/2 points more than the Rockets). If teams could truely just ignore Rubio on offense then there's no way that Minnesota could be scoring over 107 a game.

    The fact is that Rubio doesn't shoot the ball much at all. He's only attempting 8.1 shots per game. He's making 2.8 shots a game which is a bad percentage but does that really matter that he's missing just over 5 shots a game when the offense is racking up 107 per game?

    If the offense is that good and then Rubio can also play good defense on the other end then he's a valuable player. As long as the PG can orchestrate the offense and the team scores points, does it really matter whether or not the PG is the one doing the scoring?
     
  6. CertifiedTroll

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    I wouldn't even trade Ronnie Brewer for Rubio.
     
  7. tehG l i d e

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    They may be #2 in scoring but they're 10 in offensive efficiency while the Rockets are # 4. They play at 2nd highest pace in the league with 3 above average offensive players at their positions in Martin, Love, and Pekovic so that accounts for their high scoring. Plus they draw the most FTs in the league.
     
  8. aelliott

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    Ok but you don't become the 10th most efficient offense in the league if you are playing 4 on 5. Their offense is very good despite his shooting.

    You are correct about them having 3 above average offensive players but so does Houston.Harden, Howard and Parsons are better than the TWoves trio.

    We are also one of the best teams in the league at scoring from the line and we play at a fast pace. So if he isn't hurting the TWolves offense then why would he hurt the Rockets offense?
     
  9. steddinotayto

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    I wonder how many people on this board would love to have Rondo but do not want any part of Rubio.
     
  10. intergalactic

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    Rubio has had 3 seasons in the NBA, and his shooting percentage has shown no signs of getting better (36%, 36%, 35%). People compare him to Jason Kidd because Kidd couldn't shoot either. But Kidd actually shot 40% for his career, which is 4 percentage points better than Rubio. Doesn't sound like much, but
    for comparison, Ray Allen has shot 45% for his career, which is only 5 percentage points better than Kidd.

    So Rubio compared to Kidd is almost as bad as Kidd compared to Ray Allen. Think about that.
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    Kidd could actually finish at the rim.
     
  12. jtr

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    KM and Love are scoring almost 46 a game. There is your offense on that team. The problem with Rubio is that teams can freely give him a shot. Even more than Rondo who can and does score at the rim. Point guards in the NBA need to be able to average 15+ PPG to draw defenses to them. If the point guard cannot force defenses to honor their shot they are never going to be more than average. There are at least two 2014 draft prospects that are far superior than either of them.
     
  13. aelliott

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    I could really care less if a our pg is average or not on offense. What I do care about is if the offense and the defense are good or not. Minnesota is scoring very well and Rubiois the guy that runs that offense.

    Its not like Rubio is just standing off on the side while Love or Martin Iso. Neither of those guys are that good at getting their own shot. Rubio is assisting on 40.4 out of his every 100 possessions. He's the guy that makes their offense go. If he could get the ball to Howard the way that he does to Love and Martin then that would be huge.
     
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    you guys need to calm down. He's barely a kid growing up.

    I believe the one thing that affect his shooting % is his muscles. He had never hit the weights. I think his first time was last year with the team. If he receives contact, he will miss his shot wildly which is why he has a low chance of finishing at the rim. Shooting just take practice. JLin improved his % over one year. We all witness that. Why can't Rubio do it too?

    Can't believe people are calling him a bust.
     
  15. platypus

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    Rubio is one of the only starting PG's that i can say is not better than Jeremy Lin. The kid is a horrendous shooter, is very slow, and plays terrible defense. He also cannot attack the rim with the same effectiveness as Jeremy.

    I'll pass on him, I'd rather keep the young PG we have that is playing fairly well.
     
  16. Phillyrocket

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    Morey was salivating for him on draft night I wonder how he feels now.
     
  17. jtr

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    Cold would be my guess.
     
  18. jim1961

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    Not even on the radar.
     
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    Does Rubio just not have a feel for shooting the ball? Because form is teachable, no?

    I mean, if Rubio's shot could resemble half of what Tony Parker's midrange looks like, that's a win.
     
  20. AirBud#10

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    He can't shoot (he is an okay 3 point shooter though), but he's a great playmaker and a very good defender. I'd be happy to have him on the team.
     

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