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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. jtr

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    And haven't I brought in enough statistics into the conversation to show that plays out of time outs are basically meaningless? Unless you want to believe that Pop is the fourth worst X's and O's coach in the NBA this season. I can repost the graphs if you want.
     
  2. SF3isBack!!

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    Again, you have no idea what Pop is doing during those timeouts, you can't just assume all of them required an X's and O's play some may be already set plays. And some timeouts may not have been about changing plays at all(I already gave a list, injuries etc.) Those charts mean nothing without knowing the exact details of a timeout. Mchale on the other hand admits to never(or not knowing how to) drawing up X's and O's, which means in critical timeouts after the defense has figured us out he might change a guy out or two, after that it's just "Come on guys! More Pop, move the ball! rotate!"
     
  3. jtr

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    Right. I have to go by the results of his time outs. Fancy that! Real data!
     
  4. dobro1229

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    The McHale Play calling argument isn't something I just dreamed up... You yourself seem to have a pretty strong opinion about McHale's play calling which I'm assuming you are referring to with the X's and O's argument you keep bring up over, and over, and over.... How many times can you bring up the Anthony Carter quote from Minnesota in one thread???

    For which this comment followed


    Followed by about a million more "McHale is not an X's and O's coach" posts by yourself.

    So when you keep on blasting away about X's and O's you could be referring to a ton of things like-

    -his play calling
    -his overall system he has in place with this team
    -defensive schemes
    -the preparation ahead of time in scouting (film study, shoot around prep, etc.)
    -teaching players situationals (crack backs, help the helper, etc.)

    However the easiest assumption is that you and others are referring to play calling... If I'm wrong PLEASE BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT MCHALE IS DOING WRONG.

    I made that assumption after I scanned over these endless pages of mind numbing arguments and came up with the conclusion that some folks here should probably be let known that NBA dont call plays in the way you would think of your traditional YMCA team doing. If everyone this site has Rick Carlisle level understanding of the game than I apologize for insulting your intelligence level. However, it sure doesn't look like that's the case.

    And for the record Im not a McHale fan as a coach, but I do believe the supporting cast, & the front office folks that hired them know what they are doing.... I do think that McHale's future will be evaluated this Summer by Les and Morey and it is possible that they do opt for an upgrade... IN THE SUMMER... not now though.
     
  5. SF3isBack!!

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  6. jtr

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    SF3 just seems to think if he keeps saying it enough and believing it hard enough, it will become true.
     
  8. jtr

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    He is an absolute nut job. If he wants I will gladly send him a tin foil hat.
     
  9. SirKen

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    I think it was last year around this time, I said that McHale defines the ceiling for this team. I think I wrote something like "We can go as high as 5th place or we can end up at 9th barely missing the playoffs because of his incompetence." Funny, he proved me completely right at the end of the season. We almost missed the playoffs if it wasn't for Jermaine O'Neal.

    Too many injuries in too many teams to really predict the outcome this year but I feel like we are going to end up at 5th place. 2nd round is probably the most we can do while a first round exit wouldn't really surprise me either.

    Hopefully, the loss streak I am expecting due to our lack of chemistry at the moment doesn't happen. Neither the injuries, of course.

    Someone correct me if I am wrong but McHale's contract is over at the end of the year, right? Let's see how he finishes and then we can talk about him. There is really no point in letting him go at this point.
     
  10. jtr

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    The next season is a team option.
     
  11. houtown

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    Xs and Os are over rated but still are needed and have their place. Basketball is better played off instint and having a feel for each other on the court, while being aware and in tune with whats going on. The question is how to keep basketball players in tune and aware of whats going on consitently. Phil jackson incorporated team meditations and the triangle offense to keep in synch with each other on court and become aware.
     
  12. jtr

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    Jackson and his coaching style may be a one off in the history of the NBA. Maybe forever.
     
  13. SF3isBack!!

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    So let me get this straight, you guys are the ones going off! but I'm the nut job? lol ok. I see the way on Clutchfans is even if you've been proven wrong is to name call and bully your way out, that's fine. I'm a nut job and Kevin Mchale is a better coach than Greg Popovich and you guys are right you don't even need a coach they are useless and we'll win and get the best out of our players because Mchale is the greatest I'm done, happy now?
     
  14. larsv8

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    Spare us your meltdown.

    Just because we don't agree McHale is the root of all evil doesn't mean we believe he is without fault.
     
  15. SF3isBack!!

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    Your right I thought Kevin Mchale was the root of all evil even though I never said that, lol. Thanks for once again reading my mind and saying things I didn't say. Real mature convo.
     
  16. pippendagimp

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    just for perspective, you are engaging in banter with the resident president of the royce white fan club. till the bitter end, and perhaps even now, he/she b****ed and clawed at anyone here who called him out. lol.
     
  17. SF3isBack!!

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    OH ****! lol dude, you coulda told me this sooner.
     
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  19. jtr

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    Just for the record it isn't me.
     
  20. pippendagimp

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    ya, i wasn't quoting his reply to you
     

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