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Sources: McHale is trying to get the team to acquire Mike Dunleavy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Jan 7, 2014.

  1. saleem

    saleem Member

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    Rep for you!
     
  2. noone

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    I think Kevin Mchale is a great teacher. He's a qualitative guy and Daryl Morey is the quantitative guy. I think it's a good combination from the Owner.
     
  3. Razsan

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    I ask this in all seriousness and not trying to be a wiseguy...why do you think McHale is a great teacher?
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You do know that if not for McHale's skills as a GM Kevin Love would be playing on the Grizzlies right? He traded OJ Mayo for him.
     
  5. noone

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    Kevin Garnett,
    Kevin Love
    Terrance Jones.

    Players develop under his tenure. He's not good at drafting but in teaching he's had success.
     
  6. SF3isBack!!

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    LOL, Joe Smith, begs to differ.
     
  7. sun12

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    Oh, you do know with Love, Minnesota has been in the playoff for how many years?

    OOps, I did not realize Minnesota has NOT been in playoffs for a long time while Grizzlies have been to playoffs since then.

    McHale simply did not know how to build a team. Minnesota did not need a PF at the time with Jefferson. They ended up giving up Jefferson for nothing. That team really has not improved.

    With Dunleavy, it is going to be the same story, not much improvement while wasting resource.
     
  8. SF3isBack!!

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    Have you been watching bulls games? Remember he will replace Garcia who is not playing too well, this is one of the few things I agree with Mchale on.
     
  9. sun12

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    By the way, MIN is STILL looking for a SG, and has spent lottery picks trying to get one - after giving away Mayo.

    Winning a trade isn't just about who got the best pieces. It matters how well those pieces fit together.

    The Knicks got Marbury in exchange for Howard Eisley. Phoenix took the cap space and got Nash the next season. Did the Knicks "win" the Marbury trade because they got the best in-trade player? Did Phoenix "lose"? Which team, as a result of the trade, advanced further towards the goals of an NBA franchise? -

    Imagine if Nets traded Paul Pierce for Chris Paul. I think Chris Paul is the better player of the 2. But Nets do not need another PG. It's not a good fit, and Nets would be worse off as a result. So do Nets "win" that trade? They get the better player, but is "get the best player" the ultimate point of making trades?
     
  10. duluth111222

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    You do have some points, but the incompetence of MIN front office to assemble a competitive team after the LOVE trade doesn't make the trade itself a bad one. Everybody in their right mind would still do the Love for Mayo trade 10 out of 10 times.
     
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    Getting the best player in one trade may not make your team better. But if you get the best player in most trades you make, chances are your team would be way better.
     
  12. ROXTXIA

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    Well, not technically.

    What with Rick Adelman's presence, they acquired Kevin Martin. So outside of Rubio I guess they're the no-defense team. Even their center is pretty much all offense, little defense.

    Kevin Love was Kevin McHale's one smart move.

    Outside of that, I always wondered (and this was before the unfortunate coincidence of our former-Celtic GM looking for a new head coach, one who would prove less of a curmudgeon and more of a kiss-a$$: hey! whaddya know? a former Celtic player looking for a head coaching gig!) what was McHale's fascination with small ball?

    We were going to trade Luther Head + #8 pick so we could get Brandon Roy.

    McHale was going to use the pick to get Randy Foye.

    Now, Foye did just tear up the nets last night against OKC, but he's been a journeyman for the most part, neither 1 nor 2, neither fish nor fowl. Same with Luther Head. McHale wanted Head (come to think of it, don't we all?) and Foye from that draft, two 6'2" - 6'3" dudes.

    In that respect, sometimes I wonder if he's chasing after the next Dennis Johnson (RIP), while his fascination with no-defense white forwards-who-shoot-three-pointers is McHale resuscitating the ghost of Larry Bird. If so, no wonder he has the patience of a Sphinx, because even the most delusional among us would admit you'll only wind up with a watered-down copy (KLove notwithstanding).
     
  13. RiceRockets

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    Maybe he gives credit.
     
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    I think Love and Garnett would've made ME look like a great teacher. You're giving him credit for allowing 2 great players get maturity. I'm a UCLA fan and Love's game is nearly identical to his college game. he's just stronger and more athletic now. Jones? Another stud that would flourish with any good coach..
     
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    Mchale for Dunleavy
     
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    C'mon. McHale has to get some credit there. Especially with Garnett. There were plenty of busts out of high school in the late 90s yet McHale got the best out of Garnett.
     
  17. Nook

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    Agreed!

    Signed,

    Kevin Garnett and Kevin Love
     
  18. Nook

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    #1 What "resources" are being wasted by trading for Dunleavy?

    #2 If you think that Dunleavy = Garcia, you need to watch more basketball.

    #3 Dunleavy would finally fill the back up minutes for Harden.
     
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    There are so many lottery picks the are drafted into incoherent organizations that never make it. Give McHale some credit players that want to get better do under him.
     
  20. ROXTXIA

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    Yeah, don't know what it is, but when Garcia got his pay quartered, he hasn't been the lightning in a bottle we got last playoffs.

    When my wife sees Garcia check in, she's like, "Oh, s***."

    Come to think of it, me too.
     

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