I honestly think Bortles is atleast a 2nd round prospect. Watkins, AJ, Hopkins would be nasty. I still am team Johnny/Teddy with the first pick. But if we were to trade back, it would be nice to have AJ 2.0 on this team. Hopkins has Boldin written all over him when he fills out.
Chandler Parsons ✔ @ChandlerParsons Follow Good luck to my boy @JManziel2 in the draft. Texans?? 12:31 PM - 8 Jan 2014
I agree 100% McNair has a net worth of 2 billion, and the Texans are already a profitable franchise. Money is not going to decide who they select in the draft. However, selecting Manziel will bring a lot of attention the Texans way. The Texans might get more prime time games with Manziel on the team. That might appeal to McNair.
I am a big Teddy Bridgewater fan, and prefer him to Manziel... HOWEVER, if the braintrust grades them the same, I'd rather they take Johnny... more fun for sure. I'm just going with the assumption TB grades better... but if he doesn't, I'm fine with Manziel. All that said, I am curious, what do you guys think Philadelphia would give up to trade to #1, starting with Nick Foles? Could you get Foles, their #1, their #2, and their #1 next year in exchange for the top pick?
And it will appeal to the fan base as well. I doubt very many Texan fans would be disappointed with Manziel even if he wasn't there favorite. Johnny is a guy you flip the channel on for. I have season tickets, and I love going to the games for the atmosphere. Johnny would no doubt add a little extra something to Reliant.
Kiper +If you like Tarkenton, you like Manziel. +Competitiveness, desire, instincts on the field, creativity all plays to today's NFL -Durability -Play smart Should be one of the first eight players picked. QB teams: -Houston -Jacksonville -Cleveland -Oakland -Minnesota -Tennessee Also have Bortles and Bridgewater Mort: --Tarkenton a comparison heard repeatedly --Concern is he is so competitive and can be reckless, will he last. One evaluator said he wore down as the season went on. He was fresh in the bowl game because he had a few weeks off. Most believe he'll be a top five pick. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jaguars, as opposed to Houston, jump on him. Ed Werder: -Personnel guy said "I luv him." He'll be the first QB picked. Never scouted a player live who has been more impressive. Talked to a GM who said you have to structure the offense around him. Let him get outside the pocket and that will mitigate his lack of ideal size. Two issues: his recklessness, he'll do anything to get a first down and he'll throw the jump ball a lot. That's an INT in the NFL. He has to learn these two things and probably will have to learn the hard way. The first concern, the physical part, sounds a lot like RGIII. Mort: There will be pressure on Houston to take this guy. This doesn't look like a B'OB prototype. There will be concern about being so close to his playground. There will be pressure building in Houston. Dan Graziano: This guy is no one's prototype. Werder: Jerry Jones can imagine how many Cowboys jerseys he would sell with this guy.
Would much rather have Bridgewater than Manziel, but I'd be lying if I told you the thought of Manziel wasn't exciting.
Well that's why I asked what we could get. I don't know NFL trades that well. But Manziel is the perfect Chip Kelly QB isn't he?
I believe you are right about that. We could see BW, Manziel, and Bortles all go in the top three. The Rams, if the want to give Bradford another season, might trade their top pick. So the Texans are sitting there with pick number four and their three favorite QBs are off the board. That means they select Clowney/Barr or take a look at the next QB up, and who would that be? Carr? Translated, the Texans better not try and get cute. Pick your QB, draft your QB, and you have accomplished your two biggest offseason goals, new coaching staff and a new QB. Add to those two changes, a healthier roster and a schedule that presumably will be much easier, and I think a winning record is within reach next year, dare I say it, maybe even a meaningful December with a wild card spot up for grabs.
I wouldn't make that trade. For the simple fact that QBs that look good in Philly _ usually only look good in Philly... And like with Andy Reid, It may have to do more with Chip and his system on Foles having a good year more so than Foles himself. But Chip may want to do that trade though and get his hands on Johnny. Foles isn't "HIS" guy and didn't he try to recruit Johnny....?
He threw a lot of jump balls... to Mike Evans. Mike Evans is highly successful at catching those. Daryl Morey might even say keep doing it. Rudy T would say, "run it again, feed the big fella". If Evans wasn't on the team would Manziel still take those chances? Does he rely on Mike Evans or was he getting the most out of the weapons available? A little bit of both I'd think. Manziel would be a whole lot easier to evaluate if he stayed another year and didn't have Evans and an elite offensive line. Too bad for GM's. Right now he's a gamble.
The Eagles wouldn't trade NF for the Texans first round pick. Would be nice, though. It's amazing that kid fell to the third round. Quite a coup for Philly.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...scent-of-many-nfl-qbs?campaign=Twitter_nfl_cb Daniel Jeremiah | NFL.com Manziel reminiscent of a number of NFL QBs Johnny Manziel is a unique talent, so I'm not sure there's a clean comparison. But I see aspects in his game that remind me of a few different players. Tony Romo comes to mind because of their ability to improvise and create. He looks like Jeff Garcia because of his slight build and frame. He also reminds me of Russell Wilson, another player with similar height to Manziel, because of their toughness and competitive natures. Gil Brandt | NFL.com Manziel is Magic Man Plus I think he is a Doug Flutie-type of athlete, but he's faster, taller and has a better arm that Flutie. My nickname for Flutie was Magic Man. Manziel is Magic Man Plus. Every time you watch this guy you say he'll never make another play like that. Then he does it the next week. TCU coach Gary Patterson, who coached Manziel at a couple of his high school camps, told me: "He's not the biggest; you have to stretch him to get to six feet. He's not the fastest; you've got to fire him up to get to 4.65. And he doesn't throw a beautiful spiral. But all he does is win." So did Flutie, when he got his chances. And so, I suspect, will Manziel, wherever he goes. Chase Goodbread | College Football 24/7 Manziel could be a 1,000-yard rusher in NFL For a quarterback whose rushing skills are about the best anyone has ever seen at the college level, it's hard not to harken back to the best rushing quarterback the NFL has ever seen for a comparison: Randall Cunningham. Of course, in terms of physical stature, the two couldn't more different. Cunningham was 6-foot-4 and ran like a gazelle, with long strides and less reliance on making tacklers miss. Manziel is 6-1 (I've stood next to him, however, and won't be surprised if his NFL Scouting Combine measurement is closer to 6-0), and runs more like a squirrel, darting away from traffic with confounding quickness. But the results equal production either way. Cunningham peaked as a rusher in 1990, when he fell just 58 yards short of 1,000 for the Philadelphia Eagles. Manziel might one day threaten 1,000 yards on the ground himself. Dan Greenspan | College Football 24/7 Manziel much like Vick early in his NFL career In only two years at Texas A&M, Manziel put himself on the short list of college football's most exciting stars, a must-see cult of personality and whirling dervish of "Did that really just happen?" The only player remotely comparable in recent memory at the next level was Michael Vick during his unreal 2002 season, when he threw for nearly 3,000 yards, rushed for 777 yards and eight touchdowns, and upset the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau in the playoffs. Manziel has that same escapability and fearlessness like the young Vick. Whatever team drafts Manziel will have to "let Johnny be Johnny" initially, but must gradually work to wean him off of relying his athleticism and develop him into something more sustainable. Mike Huguenin | College Football 24/7 Cue up some Tarkenton highlights I would say Manziel is a mix of Fran Tarkenton, Russell Wilson and even a little Michael Vick. His mobility is unreal, and his escapability reminds me a bit of Tarkenton (and Archie Manning when he was at Ole Miss). His size obviously is a lot like Tarkenton and Wilson. And I think he can be as good a passer as Wilson, too.
Everyone is a Gamble... Itslike playing the lottery- Hope we hit Ill be happy with any player beside Bortles- for some reason Bortles doesnt appeal to me as a first round QB, but who am i to judge..
