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Longhorns hire Charlie Strong

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by J.R., Jan 3, 2014.

  1. sjackson0

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    I never say anything to the dude...I made a comment about good ole Red Mccombs and Texx feels the need to put me in my place I guess...like he really knows me. I don’t think he is even a Rocket/Sports fan. Dude just likes to race bait...instigate and **** stir. It gets him going because his life has to be one boring pot of yak spit....one day he is going to run into someone from this board and it's not gona go well.
     
  2. mikus

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    Forget the racism charge, I would like to understand why Red thinks a coach who has been a head coach of a major program for several years, has compiled a good record, and won BCS bowl games is only good enough to be a position coach or a coordinator at UT. However you dice it, whether you like Strong or not, it's a pretty strange statement and doesn't reflect reality.
     
  3. sjackson0

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    That's kinda of what i was saying too....he's an old billionaire, with an old mentality and a huge sense of entitlement. The dude said Charlie was good enough to be a positions coach or Coord but not Texas coach?? lolol Good for Patterson for making "his" hire and not the "boosters" hire
     
  4. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    He did it in the Bridgewater thread, the Strong thread, and the FSU Championship thread. Now he's started another race thread in D&D to peddle his act. Shameful.
     
  5. B-Bob

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    Great post. A head coach fields a team better than UT, compiles a record much better than UT's, has better bowl success than UT, but is only fit to be a position coach at UT.

    That's the main problem with Red's statement. It's just sadly counter-factual, and that's what sadly brings other factors up in some people's minds.

    I don't think he's a racist as much as he thinks he is smarter than everyone else *and* entitled to have his way, given his donations.
     
  6. shastarocket

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    He's getting better. During Keenum's last yr at UH, you couldn't pay bigtexxx to shut his mouth
     
  7. BenignDMD

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    this may have already been discussed, but I'm legitimately confused- why is the UT job suddenly considered the most desired job in college football? UT does NOT have a longstanding winning tradition (4 titles, only 1 since the 70s) and the fanbase has grown to demand championship contention every year only after Mack Brown took them there.

    I get that UT has a ton of $ and Texas is a great state to recruit, but since when does that make it "the best job in sports"? I'm betting that this is another one of those instances where if you say something enough times, it will become true.
     
  9. ItsMyFault

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    I don't believe it's "the" job, but it's definitely one of them for college football. You already made the mistake of measuring a program by the number of titles, it doesn't work that way. There are a lot of other factors -- seasons, bowl games, etc. in college football. Recruiting, as you mentioned, is a big deal also. Money, another thing you mentioned, is also another big dynamic factor. Other big programs have similar claims too which is why the Texas job is one of a handful of most desired positions.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    if that's your definition than the best play to coach is obviously Princeton, Yale and Harvard given their dozens of combined national titles. I guess Texas needs to reverse engineer some posthumous titles SEC style in order to generate a winning tradition - being high up in the alltime wins chart doesn't do it.

    It's fairly obvious why it's considered a top tier job. I don't think it needs to be explained further.
     
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    http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2014/01/mccombs-apologizes-for-strong-comments/#19404101=0

    SAN ANTONIO — Billionaire booster Red McCombs apologized Thursday for critical comments he made about new Texas football coach Charlie Strong, and said he told Strong he has his “total support.”

    In an interview in his office near downtown, McCombs said he spoke with Strong via telephone on Thursday to clear the air. Earlier this week, McCombs told ESPN 1250 that Strong’s hiring at UT was “a kick in the face” and suggested that the coach would “make a great position coach, maybe a coordinator.”

    Thursday, McCombs said he apologized to Strong and “to anyone that might have been offended by anything I said or did.”

    “My interest is in Longhorn athletics, and in the University of Texas,” said McCombs, who’s donated more than $100 million to the school. “My interest was to see that we hire one of the best three coaches in the United States.”

    McCombs said he regretted making the “kick in the face” and the “position coach” statements, saying he didn’t intend either to be a personal criticism of Strong. He said Strong told him during their phone conversation that an apology wasn’t necessary.

    “He wanted my help and my support,” McCombs said. “I told him I’d be happy to do it.”

    McCombs said he was bothered by the perception that his comments about Strong — who is black — were based on race. He said John Lucas, who McCombs hired as a head coach when he owned the Spurs, called him this week and said “a lot of people are saying ugly things” and offered to speak up for him.

    McCombs said he told Lucas that wasn’t necessary.

    “I’m not sure I knew anything about the race issue until it was broadcast like that,” McCombs said. “I didn’t even think about that.”
     
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    sjackson pwn3d by John Lucas
     
  14. CometsWin

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    Nice dodge Red. I'm a good ole boy from Texas and I didn't even think about race when I said the only black head coach in the history of my university could be a good position coach.
     
  15. Brando2101

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    I don't think this should be a reason to not hire him. I also don't know the answer. BUT, does anyone think that the fact He has a white wife make a difference to white and black families?

    You can say that his personal life is his business but that doesn't mean there won't be an impact on recruiting.
     
  16. Ziggy

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    Sumlin got him one of them white wives. And one of them top 5 recruiting classes.
     
  17. Dairy Ashford

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    To be fair, he didn't ask him to play safety. To be fairer...

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//youtu.be/XZ0fRBtAB1w?t=2m42s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  18. Dairy Ashford

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    To be fair, he didn't ask him to play safety. To be fairer...
     
  19. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>UT regents approve 5-year deal for Charlie Strong. $5 million per year, with annual $100k raises, bonuses.</p>&mdash; Mike Finger (@mikefinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikefinger/statuses/422781024167137281">January 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If Strong is fired without cause before the deal expires, UT still owes him 100% of salary.</p>&mdash; Mike Finger (@mikefinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikefinger/statuses/422781597247483904">January 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Strong bonuses: $100k B12 title, $100k national title game, $250k national title win, $100k NCOY, 3% Top 5, 2% Top 10.</p>&mdash; Mike Finger (@mikefinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikefinger/statuses/422782100782067712">January 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Percentage of whatever he makes that year. So Top 5 in 2015 = 3% of $5.1M. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/jdubz8810">@jdubz8810</a>: are those percentages from his base salary</p>&mdash; Mike Finger (@mikefinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikefinger/statuses/422783644302704640">January 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>$25K for 2.9 GPA, $50K for 3.0, $75K for 3.1, $75k for APR in top 10 percentile. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/katiebellmoore">@katiebellmoore</a>: Any incentives for academics?</p>&mdash; Mike Finger (@mikefinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikefinger/statuses/422784960781508608">January 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  20. Remii

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    Because this is Texas and Red misses the good old days when a black running back couldn't even run the ball in the end zone with out white folks going crazy and now he has a black dude running his team (and he has a white woman to boot). "You ain't seen the south till you been to Texas..."

    If Red lives long enough he'll be kissing Charlie's @$$ in a year are two when he has nothing but Texas and Florida kids on that team.
     

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