Don't forget they had a long layoff since last they played. Mechanics wise he still has his baseball windup but he has a cannon. Teams are going to be falling over themselves trying to draft him next year.
I'd use the #1 pick on that. When Schaub was good he was probably in the 8-12 range of the best QB's in the league. Add some running ability to that and he could be 5-8 range. Well worth the number #1 pick. The other factor would be how clutch he will be in the NFL.
I am more so trying to bring this ridiculously high pedestal that some people are putting Wineston over Bridgewater. I think the 2 are fairly comparable and the right choice for the Texans is to take Bridgewater and not trade for Mallet or trade down and take Bortles. I for one do not care what conference you play in, the way NCAA football is played is by putting up points these days and cycling in new players every down and taking advantage of mismatches on both sides of the field. I've seen enough and heard enough in the limited games I have watched of both Teddy and Jameis (not saying I think Jameis will be a bust or Teddy is sure fire All-Pro) that I think Teddy could end up being a better pro. Peyton Manning like? I didn't see Wineston throw a pick in OT or blow a 28 point lead against NE err I mean Auburn. Andrew Luck seems to be clutch, Manning is the ultimate front runner...but yes I agree Wineston was clutch that second half.
Yes, I've said it before, Winston is young and still has room to grow. You can't expect him to know it all as a freshman. He played outstanding thru the regular season but in the 1st half of this game was being owned by Auburn's front seven. Honestly if you go back to the ending minutes of the first half, that fake punt is what turned things around for FSU. Then after halftime Winston and Greene finally got things going. Both he and Teddy are learning and growing as players. That's the great thing about these two, they have the hunger to want to know it all even though they know they never will. That plus the god-given talent they have will help them at the next level. Everyone trying to anoint Winston as the next Elway was quick to criticize when I said he still has a ways to go, which is true. The good thing, he won't be just satisfied by this win and heisman, he'll want more and learn how to read and pick up those blitzes with time as Teddy has. That is why I believe this year Teddy will go number 1 regardless of who chooses and next year if he declares Winston will as well. Last night proved that it takes a team effort to beat a strong SEC team, defense, special teams, and the offense all sparked that comeback and you cannot discredit what Teddy did to Florida last year for that reason there.
So you're discrediting Jamies to pump up Bridgewater.... Not really necessary when Jamies isn't in the draft and not an option for the Texans. But it's scouts out there who are calling Teddy a second round draft pick. I don't believe anyone is saying that about Jamies for next year's draft.
You say scouts like that's a consensus opinion or one held by a lot of talent evaluators. A couple of contrarians looking to go against the grain doesn't mean Teddy's actually 2nd round value, or that he could ever be available in the 2nd round. He's going in the first 2 picks, to someone.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>My man <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler">@dpbrugler</a> with a very interesting dot-connecting piece between the Texans and Blake Bortles come draft day: <a href="http://t.co/pVRGgqfYIx">http://t.co/pVRGgqfYIx</a></p>— Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein/statuses/420580431323353089">January 7, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I'm evolving on the idea that Johnny Manziel can translate his NCAA success into NFL stardom: <a href="http://t.co/PqSHVNnd1R">http://t.co/PqSHVNnd1R</a></p>— Brian Billick (@CoachBillick) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBillick/statuses/420558585282580480">January 7, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bill O'Brien on his next QB: "When you coach Tom Brady...you're a partner in the offense with him. That's the ideal." <a href="http://t.co/SyCQ4EPCtq">http://t.co/SyCQ4EPCtq</a></p>— Jenny Vrentas (@JennyVrentas) <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyVrentas/statuses/420574730559574016">January 7, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> BILL O’BRIEN’S NOT LOOKING FOR TOO MUCH—JUST ANOTHER TOM BRADY. Just kidding. He’s not. But what the new Texans coach wants in whoever is under center for him in 2014 (it won’t be Matt Schaub, if the rest of the organization has anything to do with it) is someone who, like Brady, has a passion for football that equals O’Brien’s. “I’d be getting texts, calls from Tom on Wednesday night about the third-down package,’’ O’Brien told me. “Thursday night I’d be hearing from him 9 o’clock, 10 o’clock about red-zone plays. Obviously, he’s talented, but Tom never stopped thinking about football. When you coach Tom Brady, you’re not coaching with him; you’re a partner in the offense with him. That’s the ideal for a quarterback—someone who cares about it as much as you do.” O’Brien found that in Matt McGloin at Penn State in his first year there, and it’s why he went to the mat with NFL teams, stridently insisting to them last spring they should give McGloin a shot in training camp. The Raiders did, and McGloin ended up playing seven games for Oakland, outperforming Terrelle Pryor. The big question for O’Brien: Is Teddy Bridgewater that guy with the No. 1 pick? Is Blake Bortles (288 passing yards, three touchdowns, 74 percent completions in a Sept. 14 Central Florida win at Penn State) the guy after a trade down? Or Johnny Manziel, or Tajh Boyd, or Derek Carr? O’Brien will find out soon enough. “I just got in the building,’’ he said. “There are so many scenarios. We draft a quarterback there, we trade the pick to someone who’ll give us a lot for it, or we take another position. Lots of time to figure that out.” The draft is four months from tomorrow. O’Brien will be sick of the over-analysis by then.
Based off one game? That was the best defense they played all year. They played trash, and once he played a team that could press/cover, it exposed his lack of ability to progress through reads. Alabama would have destroyed FSU last night. Bridgewater played zero comp much like Winston. Last year he had one game against a college team with real NFL talent and excelled. Heck Johnny Manziel put up monster numbers against much better defenses this year. I see a guy who has the build/arm. The rest certainly isn't there yet(see post-game).
He sure will... And I hope it isn't to the Texans. No offensive line, only one good receiver, a broke down running back, a suspect defense, a GM who never had control of the team, and a brand spanking new head coach _ this is not a situation where we may can get instant gratification with Teddy and if he doesn't set the world on fire out the gate, fans around here will destroy him and not be as patient with him as they were with Carr and Schaub.
Manziel they will ride his hype for 2 years but Bridgewater will get about 5 months to prove himself.
Well we got Bill Obrien for this purpose.. It will be hes job to pick the best available QB, that he thinks will lead this team.. He will interview and have private workouts and be the judge of who is worth the 1st pick.. From what the experts say, is that once he gets a one on one interview with Bridgewater he will fall in love, but than again whos to say he wont fall in love with Manziel, Bortles, Boyd, or even Clowney.. you will see guys drop stock from now to the draft, if Bridgewater is still slated # 1 by draft time, than that will mean he is worth taking..
What scouts are you talking about? Everything I see Teddy has Teddy as the best QB available and think he's a top 5 talent overall. It's people like you saying well he's not Andrew Luck so don't draft him that drive anyone with common sense nuts. You continuously trash Teddy without providing any other real options. We are not trading for a top QB, so anyone that comes in here to QB for the Texans is an unknown as Jameis would be if he were available in this draft as well. Teddy looks ready, and from everything I have read about him, Teddy is ready.
Same was said about the Colts before they drafted Andrew Luck. I AM NOT COMPARING TEDDY TO ANDREW!!!! REPEAT I AM NOT COMPARING BRIDGEWATER TO LUCK. For everyone that will decide to take this out of context. Our team has been broken. It has been so broken we have gotten to the point of tearing down the coaching staff, hiring a rookie HC and solidifying the number one overall pick. I believe, Teddy has the tools to come in and turn this thing around immediately. Based on his past 2 years of performances that he has put on display he has grown; intelligence, maturity, physically, and talent wise. Every argument that has been brought up by the naysayers have been shot down by facts and stats. The criticism has gone so far that it takes people attempting to question the size of his hands and frame. Really? That's the best the critics can come up with... wow. I believe this is the guy that can grow into our leader, it won't happen overnight but neither did Aaron Rodgers or Drew Bress. These guys take time to develop just as everyone else, look at Cam Newton, he's finally got it after 2 years of trying to use only his physical abilities to win games. We all know the Lucks, Elways, and Mannings are once in a lifetime quarterbacks but you always have your in betweens that can rise to greatness with hard work and dedication to their craft. I believe Teddy has this and will impress our coaches once the scouting reports start coming back to BOB.
I still can't figure out what the knocks are on Bridgewater. Lack of elite competition (doesn't play in the SEC), small hands (?), light in frame....? I look at him in the huddle, in the pocket, and the way he processes the game and he is light years ahead of Winston (and everyone else except for maybe Bortles) in this area. The road to NFL hell was paved with Heisman Winners who can't decipher defensive schemes and relied on talent to get them by.
I've read and watched that Bridgewater has OCD tendencies when it comes to football. We've heard the same thing about other really great QBs in the NFL.
He is referring to an article where the writer claims "a scout from an AFC says Teddy is a second round talent". Remii what do you think the Texans should do?
