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Romeo Crennel expected to be new defensive coordinator for the Texans

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by jdm485, Jan 4, 2014.

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Do you like the move to let Wade Phillips go and hire Romeo Crennel as new DC?

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  1. conquistador#11

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    bye bye dom capers.:eek:
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    Interesting. I thought his name was spelled Cremmel. Good move though.
    O'Brien off to a good start hiring a once successful NFL coach.
     
  3. jbasket

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    If you look at Wade's Defences on other teams before having the Watt/Smith combo (both Pro-Bowlers) , the sacks mostly came from the linebackers. With the Texans, this is a case of Phillips adjusting the defensive schemes to the talent.

    Crennel would be foolish to utilize Watt solely as a double-team occupier and would probably get fired after a year because Watt has literally held up our defence by himself. Using him as a gap stuffer, instead of being one of the most disruptive players in NFL history, would devastate our D and be a legitimate reason to fire a coach after a year. Crennel is smarter than that and so was Phillips. People seem to forget that a Crennel-led defence shut down the Greatest Show on Turf in the Superbowl (Brady only threw for 150 yards in that game IIRC).

    Watt is the player that the system changes to suit him, not the other way around. If we get Clowney, I would assume he would change the system as well and not be a round peg in a square hole. He is just that talented. Guy's a freak, and Crennel would probably jump with joy if he got to coach that combo.

    Just a side note, the pass rush under Phillips still had the outside linebackers one on one against a lineman. However, Barwin/Mercilus/Reed are nowhere close to Ware. JJ Watt's disruption was not designed/expected to happen at the beginning of Wade's tenure, which makes his production even more incredible.

    Edit: reading the article, I double-dog dare teams to single cover Watt, the future huge nose tackle, and maybe Clowney. Good luck. In addition, our LB's are used to going up against OL, not just FB's and TE's. Pick your poison.
     
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  4. K-Low_4_Prez

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    I'd rather have Wade than this chump! But I'm glad we are sticking to the 3-4!
     
  5. crose

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    How realistic would it be to move JJ to OLB?
     
  6. ryano2009

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    could you guys please tell me if the guy is good, I know his coaching record as a HC is bad but i know nothing about him being a Def Cor....!!!
     
  7. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Why in the hell would we do that? Watt is a 3-4 DE and maybe the best one ever, if it ain't broke don't fix it!
     
  8. crose

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    Because in Crennel's system, the DEs are used to eat blocks. Moving watt outside would allow him to continue to wreak havoc. I'm just asking how realistic that is, not recommending one way or the other.
     
  9. Jake Tower

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    I'd like to see the adaptability in the system to move players around to wreak havok. I could see Watt moving between plays or series from DE to OLB for this reason.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    This is a bad move. O'Brien is just bringing in a bunch of Patriot retreads. Doesn't exactly show innovative thinking on his part. Defense would not have been a problem if the moronic QB's hadn't been giving the ball to the wrong team last year.
     
  11. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Then Crennel should change his system... I mean turning him into a OLB would probably be a bigger waste of his talent than turning him into Justin Smith.
     
  12. coachbadlee

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    Oops! Wrong guy.:rolleyes:
     
  13. Nook

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    Expecting Joe Marciano to be named new OC.
     
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    You almost eliminate all of JJ's run stopping ability if you do that. He needs to be on the line to be most effective.
     
  15. Nick

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    You realize that Bill Belicheck is possibly the best defensive game-planning mind the game has ever seen... as long as he is there, that defense will always be on the cutting edge.

    LOL to the people thinking Crennel will "ruin and neutralize" Watt. Watt has been better than ANYBODY ever thought he could be... and he raises havoc regardless of the set formation he's in.

    Hell, since the Texans were so inept this year (and couldn't stop the pass), they were often playing the nickel or dime, with Watt lining up more as a 4-3 DE than an inside guy. He still got to the QB, he still was able to bat down passes, and he still was able to do all of this often getting double teamed.

    The Texans need a defensive mind who's got the same game-plan mindset that O'Brien has (which Wade doesn't), and also happens to have some playoff success. Don't want an unproven guy like Frank Bush, and don't want a guy set in his ways like Wade.
     
  16. jbasket

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    So you would like to have a horrible red zone defence that doesn't force turnovers and relies on one guy to hold it together?


    Very unrealistic.

    He's good. Coached the Patriots Defence when they won 3 superbowls. Since he left to be a HC, their defence has been a mess. Also won two super bowl rings as a defensive line coach. HC = bad, but DC = good and experienced.

    O'Brien wasn't there when Crennel was IIRC. This is more of a move of hiring an established coordinator who has talked the talk and walked the walk. The Texans also do not have to switch to a 4-3 either.

    Defence was kinda of a problem as well: too reliant on the playmaking of JJ Watt, horrible in the red-zone. Yards given up per game showed positive light on the Texans D, but that is heavily misleading.

    Nice.
     
  17. tmacfor35

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    Noted

    First time you have said anything remotely positive about the Texans. Not the pessimist today are we?
     
  18. KingStevo10

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    Glad we can stay in the 3-4. Sad to see Wade go but if that's what O'brien wants gotta let the man make his decisions...
     
  19. Aruba77

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    I'm Luke warm on Crennel, but I have seen him literally shut down Payton Manning a few times. To my mind he is the best DC at playing Manning...so that's positive.
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    I know people bring fake picket fences to games, but it is spelled with an s.

    This crew will be Patriot retread heavy, if he never worked with him, that makes me even more nervous.

    Problems in the red zone are from an exhausted defense watching their offense flounder and give the ball away. The system isn't reliant on JJ, it was reliant on OLB's who failed miserably. Wade's system always has the OLB as the sack leader, JJ is just that good, and the OLB's were just that bad.
     
    #80 Bandwagoner, Jan 4, 2014
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