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Teddy Bridgewater or Bust

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Old Man Rock, Dec 3, 2013.

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  1. Two Sandwiches

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    I agree that Bridgewater has seemingly better mechanics at times. I also agree with the comparison to Rodgers (it's one I've used myself). The only thing that I think some people forget is that Rodgers sat behind one of the greatest quarterbacks in recent memory for, what, two years before starting?

    Bridgewater might not have that luxury.
     
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    FIFY :(
     
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    Yeah...I could get used to that.
     
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    Awwwww... The classic my girl is uglier than yours argument... They both played against weak competition dude... And the history of NFL teams taking QBs with top picks who consistently faced weak competition is rare and even more rare that they succeed. Steve McNair is the only one I can think of in recent history.
     
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    No more #8 too...
     
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    Excellent find! It does irritate me though, how people call Belichick a genius because him and his coaching staff "Saw something in Tom Brady no one else could see", if he could see so much of this ahead of time, they would've given up the farm and traded up to get him with the #1 pick. Instead they took him where he deserved to go, in the 6th round.

    And before you roast me, I know he's been super successful, but coming out of college (as the video points out) Tom Brady went exactly where he should've gone, heck you could argue he STILL went to high (at that point in time, not now of course).
     
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  10. Two Sandwiches

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    False logic. Part of what makes the draft tough is gauging what other teams are doing and thinking, as well. If the Pats really like Brady, but they were pretty sure he wouldn't go until the sixth round, why take him any time before the sixth round? You take him with a first round lick, and you're setting yourself up to look like an idiot. If he doesn't pan out, you screwed yourself out of a job (a), and you also just wasted a pick you could have spent on a much "better" or more "sure thing" prospect.
     
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    I thought Favre wasn’t close with Rodgers and refused to help him. Also he refused to leave. Yeah Rodgers got to see him play close up but got to believe watching film on Rodgers would be better for Bridgewater than watching Favre.

    Plus Mr Brett refused to leave stunting Rodgers growth. I think having a mentor is great and it would be nice if he could work under Rodgers, Brady or Manning for a year but Obrien should be able to compensate for most of that advantage. Add a great QB coach and he should be fine. Bridgewater is a sponge when it comes to absorbing the game.
     
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    Yea I think the sitting behind a QB is just an old football wives tale. Too many guys nowadays can step in and be great in their first year. College isn't like it used to be anymore, it's pretty much the minor leagues nowadays. Gone are the 3 play playbooks and wishbone offenses. Bridgewater audibled more than Matt Schaub last year. Guys come in prepared nowadays.
     
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    Beyond the ones mentioned, Steve Young did pretty well too out of the WAC.

    But you miss the point - the draft position doesn't matter unless you think being picked #1 makes you LESS likely to succeed. Players from small conferences, QB and otherwise, regularly do fine in the league. Is there any evidence that they fail at a higher rate than major conference players? If not, then the competition argument doesn't have much value because it's accounted for in their draft stock.
     
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    http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/02/teddy-bridgewater-2014-nfl-draft/

    “Wait until [teams] talk to him and get him up on the blackboard,” said an NFL personnel executive who has known Bridgewater since ninth grade. “He lives and breathes football. Always has. Teams are going to fall in love with him.”

    "After a standout high school career, Bridgewater decided to decommit from the hometown Hurricanes—an extremely unpopular decision in the neighborhood—and go to Louisville. And in an example of his unflinching belief in his own talent, Bridgewater graduated high school early and enrolled at Louisville in the spring to position himself to win the starting job as a freshman. He earned it by the third game, and he never gave it up."
     
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    I am not a football guy and I don't pretend to be, but it seems like Bridgewater is the 7/10 girl with a rich family, can cook well, loves to clean, will be a good mother, funny and sweet. I mean she is no 10, but in the grand scheme of things is probably the way to go.
     
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    I'd say 8/10 and with a little plastic surgery, a possible 10/10.
     
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    You're making my point; if they KNEW he would become what he became, then why wouldn't they have taken him with a "1st round lick"? (sorry, couldn't resist) I'm just saying that they obviously didn't know what he was going to become, they just thought he fit their system, and could one day be a servicable backup.
     
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    This is a guy that is going to turn a franchise into a consistent contender for 10+ years
     
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    Did you watch the entire video, because they basically said the bolded wasn't true. They were already over the cap and had big $$ tied up in a QB, so they passed on him multiple times. They took him in a round where he was rated so far ahead of the other players available, ie late.
     
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    very true. From the stories it seemed like Favre was far from a mentor to Rodgers. Plus, it's not like Favre was an amazing student of the game.

    I do think the "mentoring" thing is often over blown.
     
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