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Why are we such a soft team in losses? Where is our JYD?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pippsux, Dec 30, 2013.

  1. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

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    AB was apart of our team full of tough guys in 09. Luck favors the brave. You have to put yourself in a position to win no matter how much you are down no matter your rival. You might still loose but as long as you give it your all you still won, this team doesn't have that type of Mantra. The game of basketball is as much psychological as it is physical.
     
  2. Fighton

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    dude, i get what you're saying but harden is on 24, and has only been the "franchise" player for less than 2 years. he's probably just as confused about what it is to be a franchise player as any young player. he's probably still trying to figure out his own game. his skills are there, but he still needs time to build up his confidence. heck, he can't even face the media after bad games.

    what you're talking about takes a good deal of experience to build up, and the coaches are letting him go through these situations to help him learn from them.
     
  3. Htownballer38

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    These players I mentioned brought there A games when they were young too. Jordan brought it too both Bird and Magic when he was young. Tracy mcGrady went ape crazy when he became the young Superstar in Orlando.

    But you are right, this is a good learning experience for Harden.
     
  4. Kiddsir

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    It's not about players themselves.
    It's about the game strategy, we shot 3 and attack the rim nothing more.
    So predictable, that make thunders and pacers like all time defensive team.
     
  5. pmac

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    The rockets either need a better mixture of defensive players or more two way guys. Right now our only real two way player is Dwight and even he's inconsistent on his post ups.

    This has little to do with mental toughness. For this team to get to the next level they'll either need to trade for defensive minded rotation players or get a coach that has a defensive focus.
     
  6. Tom Bombadillo

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    Exactly.

    (And a better bench so Harden/Parson are not run into the ground...)
     
  7. larsv8

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    Kevin Durant has often been labeled soft and he is a fantastic player.

    Ron Artest has often been labeled as tough and he is garbage.

    It's made up nonsense because it sounds good and it is easy for the less sophisticated posters to use to make their points.

    If you think Morey has a toughness rating in his player evaluations, then I have a bridge to sell you.
     
  8. Play07

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    What motet does is what he does, but if you think a team with soft players will win championship then I have a bridge to sell you
     
  9. Carl Herrera

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    Because it's true for almost every bad free throw shooter in the NBA? It's much easier to make FTs in practice when you are standing still and shooting a bunch of shots in a row. You didn't just sprint up and down the court a ton and likely had somebody try to tear your arms out of socket or knock you hard on your ass before trying to make two shots. You also get to adjust the shot distance amd mechanics as you shoot dozens of shots in practice.

    It's not unusual for guys, including "JYD"-types, to shoot significantly better in practice.
     
  10. Blaster_333

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    Yet everyone in the NBA uses these terms quite often, from the legends to the analysts to the current NBA players. "We played soft tonight", "They're a team of soft players".

    Of course there's no stat to measure something intangible like that, but i'm more likely agree with players that are actually at that level, that mental strength is a big deal.

    These are just opinions rather than arguments so no reason to disprove anyone. Just say you disagree.

    Maybe we throw soft and tough terms out of this for a minute, and ask where is the leadership on this team?
     
  11. larsv8

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    I don't think a team of soft players will ever win a championship.

    The winners of the championship will be labeled as hard, and the losers as soft.

    Real tangible things will determine the outcome, not that made up nonsense.
     
  12. SF3isBack!!

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    Dwight percentage during practice is A LOT higher. Most people lose a small percentage but when the percentage is huge, it's mental.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    Lebron James got labeled soft when his team lost in the playoffs or even the Finals. And then his team won two in a row. He is the same guy-- the best in the NBA before and after he won. He just had a better team around him and better luck in the playoffs.

    Who exactly has been Miami's "JYD" the last two years? Chris Bosh? Chris Anderson? Haslem? Mike Miller? Shane Battier? Ray Allen?
     
  14. Blaster_333

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    Dude, just reading this entire thread, you realize they're basically saying they are robots with no use for mental capacity, that somehow get fatigued.

    The lengths people will go to defend their ego is amazing.

    Sorry I don't have stats to back this up.
     
  15. SF3isBack!!

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    Those people are not me, so maybe they are his rivals spewing nonsense. But a player at Kevin's Level, who shows up every game is mentally tough. Especially at his age. The man lead his team to the finals. It's not easy, it's not simply making shots, when Durant steps on the court he is a target. Some people can handle it and others cannot, it is why Harden and Dwight sometimes disappear.
     
  16. Play07

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    @larsv8 I don't think people are saying we need bullies on our team, but their saying we need to play with more HEART, morey can put together the perfect team under the cap on paper, according to his stats.

    But a rockets coach just so happened to say it best

    Rudy T "Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion"
     
  17. SF3isBack!!

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    I'm starting to see that. They act like they are superhuman with no emotion so only injury and fatigue effect them, they simply just don't make the shot. Dwight shoots 82% in practice I'm sorry common since will tell you that a jump that big is due to mental weakness.
     
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    Anderson I guess and a bit Haslem. But I don't subscribe to the JYD thing. If you make big plays and hustle and show resolve, then you aren't "soft" in my book.
     
  19. SF3isBack!!

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    Sometimes people talk ish. At some level I myself think Lebron was a coward for going to Miami. I believe it changed the NBA and is why the Eastern Conference is so weak, he took the easy way out. However Lebron at that point had already lead his team to the finals, you cannot be soft and do that. The thing you have to separate is who's point of view can actually be proven because in this sport there is a lot of trash talking. People who hate Lebron will say he is soft or mentally weak but you cant do what he has done in cleveland and be soft, maybe you can do that in Miami because he has so much talent around him, but he couldn't do it in Cleveland.
     
  20. TheFreak

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    Get better players on the team then instead of blaming the coach. He plays with the hand he's dealt. This team has zero depth. This team wouldn't even have HCA in the first round currently, and you want the coach to play scrubs more? You have supposedly a huge trade asset just collecting a paycheck since the summer, while the team has no starting quality PF and no bench, and somehow it's the coach's fault for playing the guys who know how to play?
     

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