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Is Islam the most violent religion?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Tree-Mac, Dec 30, 2013.

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  1. Andrew Wiggins

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    Don't hate me because I'm not biased like most. The entire my religion is better and my people don't commit crimes argument is silly.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    or that Muslim states do not accurately collect their crime data...
     
  3. Andrew Wiggins

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    Considering the Muslim population is estimated to be 1.6 million people making up 22% of the world population we would live in a very violent world if the title of this thread was true.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    Post any of those stats then. Understand them first and make them relevant to the discussion.


    Oh sorry, I thought your statement was based on something. Mao killed 30 million of his own people just by famine so if you want to start comparing deaths let me know.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    I would assume you meant 1.6 billion... and yes this world is rather violent.
     
  6. Andrew Wiggins

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    Uh huh. Cuz we have the best stats in the world. What about the stats in the U.S.? Check the last page and give me your opinion.
     
  7. Andrew Wiggins

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    Yes, billion. I put the beer down. Only reason I'm in this god forsaken place.
     
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    That's idiocy.

    "If men wearing red hats threaten to maul you violently, kill the those men with red hats. But if they want to act peacefully, be peaceful with them and coexist."

    ^^^Haters will take this quote, delete everything but the bold part and then copy and paste. "Kill those men with red hats" LOOK AT THESE VIOLENT BARBARIANS AND WHAT THEIR BOOK TELLS THEM TO DO! OUTRAGE! BALLYHOO!

    And as for IzakDavid, you mention cause mischief and don't mention wage war against God and his Messenger. So much for your context argument.

    And yeah, that's what "mischief" means. The Pagan Arab Quraysh were causing simple mischief by beating up and abusing those who listened to Muhammad or embraced Islam, pelting Muhammad with rocks, throwing camel entrails on him while he's peacefully praying, slandering him and calling him a sorcerer and a madman, trying to attack him and kill him in his sleep, torturing men who accepted Islam by placing heavy rocks on their abdomen and crushing them unless they denounced Islam. And countless other violent abuses.

    All that is mischief which is simply "following or preaching your own religion & denying Islam" GTFOH.
     
  9. Nice Rollin

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    suicide bombings? yeah. definitely most violent. all they know is destruction
     
  10. Tree-Mac

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    Most violent religion does not mean all members of such religion commit crimes. Look at it this way, if Parsons is the most handsome Rocket, does that mean he's more handsome than all NBA players? Compare Islam with Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, and Taoism.
     
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    It's around 1.6 Billion Muslims, (some put the figure at close to 2 Billion as of 2011) & we do live in a very violent world if you haven't noticed. Syria has just lost around 100,000 people in civil war, there are uprisings happening in the Middle East and violent atrocities committed every hour, world wide, by people of all races, religions, colours and creeds, but only one religion has a prophet that endorsed, participated and encouraged such violet acts as murder, mutilation, rape, robbery, assault, domestic violence, slavery, genocide etc, etc, etc.
     
  12. Tree-Mac

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    Islam is more like a government than it is a religion.
     
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    Don't forget the Holocaust and 2,000 years of pogroms before then.
     
  14. Andrew Wiggins

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    Stats don't mean anything this part of the forum.
     
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    Name one major war the U.S. was not involved in since its creation in 1776.
     
  16. Tree-Mac

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    The U.S. is not a religion. Can you compare basketball players with scientists?
     
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    Do you really want to go down this road with me? Seriously?


    Your apologetics is flawed & biased. I didn't mention Wage war against God & his messenger because it was a moot point. I was just showing that the most peaceful verse in the Quran, that is used by every apologist including Obama, is taken way out of context and actually an instruction to the Jews to tow the line or face the consequences mentioned in the very next verse!!!

    I was going to tear your previous posts to shreds, but didn't bother because:

    A) Already been there done that in the D&D

    B) Your arguments and points are so amateurish that most people can see through the Muslim apologetics facade.
    &

    C) What would be the point on New Years Eve? I'm kind of busy.

    But for the sake of flinging poo, I'll do it after New Years celebrations. (it's New Year's Eve in Australia!!!)

    Happy New Year to all!!! Stay safe!
     
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    Capitalism might as one be one and who better champion that cause than the U.S?

    Capitalism has killed almost as many people as Christianity.
     
  19. Andrew Wiggins

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    Dominant religion of the US is? Christianity.

    Congress? Christianity and Judaism.
     
  20. itstheyear3030

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    Seriously. I argued this same issue a while back re: crime statistics in Muslim nations (specifically domestic abuse) and got the same chorus of "bad data" even after I posted UN statistics. Clearly we should value the opinion of a bunch of sports forum posters over UN researchers. :rolleyes: Obviously, we have to take all numbers with a grain of salt, but it's better than basing our opinions on pure conjecture.

    As to the topic on hand, the answer is clearly no. Chances are somewhere in the world there is a there is a crazy religious sect with far more violent doctrine. If the OP meant mainstream religions (and was not just trolling), it's hard to say. What time frame are we talking about and what can be fairly attributed to religion? For instance, can the genocide of native americans and slavery, both perpetrated by mostly Christians and often justified with Christian theology, be counted?
     

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