UCF: #12 defense UH: #20 Cinci: #21 Why does only UH count? Either you don't know what much about the subject you're talking about, or you seem to have an agenda.
That's why I asked the question about whether UH was the only measuring stick. Seems like you are the one with the agenda.
For someone so interested in making judgments about Bridgewater, you'd think you could have spent the 2 minutes to do research before making so many now-admittedly uneducated comments about him. Seriously, if you don't know anything about his competition, why would you comment so much about it? For example, this: I would have liked to have seen Teddy play against quality defenses. Could be easily rectified by having watched some of his games against those defenses, had you actually been interested.
Those rankings dont mean quite as much when you look at the competition of those teams. An SEC team ranked in the top 40 is more impressive than UCF being ranked 12th. Having said that, Bridgewater has done well with the cards handed to him.
Certainly - but UH has the same competition as those other teams. If he considers UH a reasonable measuring stick, then the other two are equally as good. He only used UH because that was Bridgewater's bad game and bigtexxx has a not-so-subtle agenda that he tries to hide.
Level of competition, when it comes to judging QBs, is really overrated. When you're picking a national champion, yes. When you're evaluating draft talent, not so much. CUSA, the WAC, the MAC, and the former Big East have pumped out some really quality NFL QBs over the years. The reason for this is probably that QBs are very dependent on their teammates. If you're facing lesser talent in your conference, you're also playing *with* lesser talent on your team. So it's negligible. If you're drafting a lineman, a WR, or a DB, etc. you can use level of competition against them, because those are very individualistic positions that fight one-on-one battles.
People can't ask questions any more? You think you're in charge? lol please. Then you twisted my words and deleted the question I asked immediately after your quoted comment to make you look better. Lose the agenda.
And QBs on great teams are often helped with good lineman and WRs so they have a ton of time to throw to wide open targets. Who ****ing knows when it comes to evaluating QBs. Seriously. No one knows. It's all over the place.
Very true. When you analyze guys like VY and Leinart they had wide open WR to throw to and all day to throw behind their great oline's which made them look better than they were.
texans gonna win today... ugh.. so annoying. decent value on the texans ml, but it has gone down from +270 to +240. sharps on the texans, say it ain't soooo!!!
Possible. A more likely scenario would be the trade down to another team that wants to move up and select him in front of us.
Good ol reliable McCain and Keo... neither has any business being on an NFL starting defense. They can try their hardest, and still will look like they're tanking.
Well, if that "great" team is in a "great" conference, the difference should be negligible. But there are certain situations where a truly great team does carry a QB. Leinart on that mini all-star team at USC comes to mind, as does AJ McCarron today. It's a very immaterial evaluation process, as opposed to other positions. I think the two most important things, almost as much as game performance, for QBs is work ethic and physical tools. Because of this, if you just focus on "power" conferences for your QBs, you're gonna have a bad time. Good QBs can come from anywhere. If it's hard to evaluate a 21 year old QB. Imagine how hard it is to evaluate a 17 year old QB. So it's no wonder capable QBs end up spread out all over the NCAA.
Yea but if a college quarter back has played against garbage competition it's a big roll of the dice to spend a #1 overall draft pick on him because the competition in the NFL will be alot different. Steve McNair was hard to pass up because of his size and athletic ability and I believe he's one of the few that was taking with a top pick that was successful. And of course the system can have a lot to do with the success of a QB. I'm not saying Bridgewater isn't the way to go but going by your theory the Texans should trade out of the #1 slot and get more picks and draft Jimmy Garoppolo in the 3rd round.
What you're saying is why I believe the Texans should trade out of the #1 pick.. Say what you want about Luck and RG111 but it can be argued that Wilson, Foles, and Cousins are just as good if not better. I believe in this draft the Texans can find a QB with a later pick that would be just as good if not better than what they would get if they drafted Teddy or Johnny with the first.
