ESPN: Knicks hoping Rondo will force a trade to NY, then hopes to sign max guy in '15

Just be thankful Amare didn't want to wear red.

 

haha wow. April fools like almost

 

The Knicks are the NFL's equivalent to the Dallas Cowboys.

 

The thing is Dolan meddle too much,and DID NOT UNDERSTAND PATIENCE is the key for any GM to try to get a star and yet keep a good roster .

 

The Knick's are delusional. If Rondo was to force a trade, there are at least 10 other places I would envision him wanting to go before the Knicks, and 20 other places with better assets to offer.

 

I hope this trade happens because Rondo isn't what the Knicks need. He has to be surrounded by talented scorers. The Knicks are trying to build a contender on the backs of 2 or 3 stars, not by creating a balanced team.

If Rondo is one of the two best players on a squad, that team is definitely NOT a championship contender. In addition to being an uncontrollable psycho, he is way overvalued by some.

 

If your angle is to make an already bad Knicks team even worse, you could have a point. But the only way Boston does this is if Danny has some chocolate Mescaline put in his morning coffee.

 

You mean Melo?

The rumor was that Morey had the Amare deal done but his injury history scared him (Morey) away.

If I was a star player, the NYK would be the LAST team I go to. Maybe the failure of the Nets and Knicks will bring players to their senses to stop looking at the glamor cities and instead worry more about the front office for those teams.

 

If the Knicks offered the right value, Ainge would do it in a minute. The problem is the next 1st rounder the Knicks can trade is 2018 and their roster is stuffed with overpaid, over-the-hill veterans.

Every team in the NBA wants to do a trade with the Knicks because they are so stupid. It's so bad, Dolan (allegedly) vetoed giving up a 1st rounder for Lowry because of the perception that Ujiri would have ripped him off a second time (first was the Melo trade).

 

That is what I meant. They have very little that is of value.

 

lol so many teams confident of the crazy

 

Really? Who are the top tier free agents that have ever signed there? How many top tier players forced a trade there other than Melo who is from there? Why has Houston gotten those players and not NYK?

Oh wait, your were thinking Starburry was a top tier player right?

LA has had tons of top tier players force their way there. We all know about Miami. Houston has certainly had it's share of top tier talent force their way into town (Pippen, Chuck, TMac, D12).

Has there been any other top tier player other than Melo that has ever forced their way into the Knicks franchise?

 

Amare had no where else to go if he wanted a max contract because no one else included the Suns were willing to give him one. Tyson is a terrific Defensive player but he certainly is not in the class of the top tier players like DWade, Kobe, D12, Lebron, TMac (in his prime), etc...

 

Ask and it shall be given unto you ... seek and ye shall find

In the spirit of Christmas we can all hope

 

It wasn't a rumour. Amare's camp wouldn't consent to a physical, so Morey passed. Knicks agreed to no physical, and hence no insurance on Amare's injury, and now they're stuck with a max contract injured but not retired player in Amare that is a situation far worse than the Rockets had with TMac and Yao.

 

If Lin and Asik go to Brooklyn, the Nets will win the Atlantic

 

You can't really afford CHandler, Melo, Amare, all the guys they have+Rondo. I mean, just Melo and Amare caps them out already.

This is why more and more FOs are becoming analytics-based, because you can't have a guy who has no idea about the cap and its ramification running your franchise. Having a GM who treats the players like assets might seem horrible to casual fans, but the reality is you need a guy like that in your FO, otherwise you have numbnuts who give Amare a max contract without any physical and trades away an unprotected pick, Gallo, Chandler and Mozghov for Melo.

 

Brave man. You really went out on a limb there.

 

This dude wants to give Rondo the max but couldn't even match Lin?

 

Donnie Walsh has a halo glow around the NBA because of his history and because every other Knicks GM has been pathetic. But he was a failure in NY too. One can point to 3 key moments in his GM career which really showed him no longer the GM he used to be.

Moment one was the Stephen Curry draft. The Knicks by their own admission stated they had no backup plan to drafting Curry. They didn't look to trade up for whatever reason. They pretty much told the world that they wanted Curry. And ended up having Curry stolen right in front of them. And they drafted Jordan Hill.

Moment two was the Jared Jefferies trade where he was utterly, totally, absolutely destroyed by Morey. The saddest part was, Walsh painted himself into a corner that was totally unnecessary. The trade market opened in the offseason. Chicago dumped Hinrich's 2yr/$17mil contract while spending only a 17th pick. Hinrich was better than Jefferies, but still vastly overpaid. Miami traded Cook's $2.1mil contract while swapping the 18th pick for the 32nd pick. Yet Walsh traded last year's lottery pick, a future 1st, and a future pick swap. I remember all this fairly clearly because of how interesting that offseason was.

Moment 3, of course, was signing Amare when Lebron left.

Basically even taking out the Melo trade, Walsh failed. He put all his basket into the 2010 FA and he failed. Now Amare's still getting paid $20mil/yr.