Hard to compare because Lowry/Brooks didnot have to play with Harden. Try and insert Harden into that backcourt, i am sure things would be much different. One of them would ride the pine and therefore stats wouldn't be the same.
Lol this argument about pushing the Lakers to 7 games. That's like saying last year Warriors was a top tier team because they pushed the Spurs to 6.
That rockets team didn't have Yao after the first 2 games against the Lakers. To take the champs like that had A LOT to do with Brooks and Lowry, who along with Scola and Landry were our only reliable options.
I am a LOF, and even I would stun by all those people calling for Lowry+Brooks. There is a reason that Lowry is bouncing around. In addition, Are you going to fire McHale to bring him back? How would Lowry react when Harden shut to "give me the f*king ball"? Lowry+Brooks on the court together would be disaster vs Bev+Lin on both offense and defense. I think Dragic would fit Rockets better at this point thought.
He only got three after "walking" in the league for 7 seasons. He average 15.2/7/3.9r this year with a lot more minutes. I am sure he has the talent and *can* do it but he is definitely *not* doing it for 7 years. All-star worthy? Wow, that is far fetch.
This. Can you imagine having Lowry as the PG and allowing Harden to take his duty, making Lowry a jump shooter?? Sure he is a good one now but his strength was penetrating, running and distributing the ball.
Depends on circumstances. If we are talking about the prime healthy Lowry and healthy Brooks (at his best) then it's difficult not to take those two. Brooks would be a superb scorer off the bench, and Lowry is a jack of all trades player much like Parsons.
Basically this. This entire thread is an extension of people reminiscing about old times that aren't even comparable to now.
Code: Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% eFG% FTr 3PAr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48 1 Patrick Beverley 2013-14 25 25 788 12.0 .535 .505 .198 .507 5.7 7.9 6.9 10.7 2.0 0.9 11.4 14.2 113 107 1.1 0.6 1.7 .104 2 Aaron Brooks 2013-14 29 24 413 13.7 .537 .510 .154 .417 3.5 6.8 5.3 21.2 2.4 0.5 17.0 21.4 105 107 0.4 0.3 0.8 .089 3 Jeremy Lin 2013-14 25 19 555 17.6 .641 .575 .578 .382 0.7 8.0 4.6 22.7 2.0 1.1 20.5 21.7 114 107 1.3 0.4 1.7 .148 4 Kyle Lowry 2013-14 27 26 954 18.0 .561 .505 .309 .495 2.9 9.5 6.1 31.3 2.5 0.3 14.7 19.4 116 105 2.4 1.0 3.3 .168 Just using the stats for this year, it looks like lowry is a little better than Lin (higher PER, WS, and WS/48). Brooks has a higher PER than Bev, but lower WS/48. You can call them close to even. Since Lowry is a little better than lin I would say Lowry/Brooks > BevLin. In their prime I like brooks a lot better than Bev. I don't think Bev is goood. So in that case it is Brooks/Lowry.
The two consistent 38% high volume 3 point shooters. Plus, imo, Lowry is the best defender of the bunch.
Pretty much everyone who is objective would agree Bev is not a good player. His offense is bad. His running an offense is non-existent. And his defense is inconsistent. He can shut down a star PG one game then get burned and scored on easily the next game by a scrub PG.
This is not a fair comparison because there are 3 other players on the court at any given time. What's the context here? Let's say you took "the best" years from all four respective players and combined them together as pairs. And then you surrounded them with 3 "average" players for the other positions. In that scenario, Beverley/Lin is clearly the better combination, because Brooks' best season is well below that of both Beverley's and Lin's (while Lowry is at the same level of performance). In addition, Beverley and Brooks are both undersized, so they actually match up well together (i.e., Beverley shouldn't have any problems defending Brooks, and there's where most of his value lies, while Brooks doesn't have the speed advantage against Beverley that he would against most larger guards). Brooks has an interesting reputation for being a clutch sniper who can make it rain buckets, but the reality is that even in his best season he wasn't all that efficient with his shots, mostly because he was a pure outside shooter who wasn't a threat to get to the rim (i.e., to get high-percentage layups or draw fouls). He can definitely go off sometimes, but overall, when you assess all the hot streaks and the cold streaks, he's not all that great of a player when it comes to getting points. Here's the more interesting question: If you had no idea who the other 3 players on the team would be, except that they were at least league-average for their position, and you had no idea who the opposing players would be (except, again, that they would be at least league-average for their positions), which pairing would you take? I'd probably go with Lowry/Brooks, because I'm not convinced that Beverley can defend half of the guards in the league (mostly due to size) and this year he's been such a poor offensive threat that you would be rolling the dice that you'd get more than Lin on your team as a weapon. Safer to go with both Lowry and Brooks (who at least have to be defended) and dare the opposing PG to make outside shots while letting your paint players protect the drive.
