Why should we hate. I hate McFail for such an idiotic match-ups like Garcia vs Nowitzki and Casspi vs Nowitzki. And always he scores over 25
A team will usually mirror its best player, and Hakeem was tough and gritty, likeable and unique. When we won the first title in 94, Hakeem led the team in almost every statistical category and the 2nd best player we had was Mad Max, who only averaged like 14 or 15 ppg on horrendous shooting %'s. Hakeem had to carry a very subpar supporting cast to the finals. It could be argued that Hakeem was probably the last player in NBA history to lead such team to the finals and championship. I can't recall a superstar every winning a championship in my lifetime with such low quality supporting cast. Maybe Duncan?
I beg to argue that the supporting cast was 'low quality' Robert Horry = won more championships Sam Cassell = one of the best PGs of our generation Otis Thorpe = SOLID as a ROCK Kenny Smith = solid PG Vernon Maxwell = superior defender , plus dropped 35 on the Suns on the famous Clutch City game Mario Elie = tough defender, he also helped the spurs win a title And the next year we got Clyde Drexler, a Hall of Famer We had the BEST SUPPORTING CAST. They knew how to play with a superstar. I'll never say that Dream won with 'less talent' because he was the best player in the league
Jordan has BJ Armstrong as his PG and Horrace grant as his PF. Kenny Smith could destroy BJ Armstrong, and he DID DESTROY HIM. OT was so underrated. He was an allstar you know and Grant can't hold him. http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199212110CHI.html <PRE> Basi Starters MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Hakeem Olajuwon 41:00 12 19 .632 0 0 4 5 .800 4 9 13 7 4 5 1 3 28 Vernon Maxwell 40:00 8 14 .571 1 5 .200 2 4 .500 0 3 3 3 2 0 2 2 19 Robert Horry 36:00 9 17 .529 0 1 .000 0 0 3 1 4 0 1 0 0 3 18 Kenny Smith 36:00 5 10 .500 3 3 1.000 4 4 1.000 1 3 4 7 2 0 1 1 17 Otis Thorpe 29:00 9 13 .692 0 0 1 5 .200 2 6 8 6 1 0 3 2 19 Reserves MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Carl Herrera 21:00 1 3 .333 0 0 2 2 1.000 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 4 Matt Bullard 15:00 1 4 .250 1 4 .250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 Scott Brooks 12:00 1 1 1.000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 Sleepy Floyd 6:00 0 2 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 Winston Garland 2:00 0 1 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Mark Acres 2:00 0 1 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 Team Totals 240 46 85 .541 5 13 .385 13 20 .650 10 23 33 27 10 5 9 14 110 </PRE> <PRE> Basi Starters MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Michael Jordan 40:00 11 23 .478 1 3 .333 3 3 1.000 4 7 11 4 0 1 4 4 26 Scottie Pippen 37:00 8 22 .364 0 1 .000 6 8 .750 6 3 9 8 2 2 3 0 22 Horace Grant 34:00 5 9 .556 0 0 2 2 1.000 5 4 9 3 0 1 0 2 12 B.J. Armstrong 24:00 4 7 .571 1 3 .333 0 0 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 1 9 Bill Cartwright 18:00 2 5 .400 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 2 4 Reserves MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Scott Williams 20:00 0 1 .000 0 0 2 2 1.000 1 2 3 0 0 1 2 5 2 Rodney McCray 18:00 2 4 .500 0 0 3 3 1.000 4 4 8 2 1 0 1 3 7 John Paxson 17:00 3 8 .375 1 1 1.000 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 7 Stacey King 12:00 2 5 .400 0 0 1 1 1.000 1 2 3 1 0 0 1 0 5 Trent Tucker 9:00 0 1 .000 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 1 1 0 Will Perdue 8:00 0 1 .000 0 0 0 1 .000 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 Jo Jo English 3:00 1 2 .500 0 1 .000 0 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 0 2 Team Totals 240 38 88 .432 3 9 .333 17 20 .850 22 25 47 27 4 5 17 19 96 </PRE> Houston Rockets 110 10-6 (Won 3) Chicago Bulls 96 12-6 (Lost 1) December 11, 1992
It was a lower quality supporting cast than what most NBA superstars are gifted with these days. Look at the amount of experience most of those guys had, Hakeem and Thorpe were 9 year players at the time. Everyone else was way under that. Horry was in his 2nd year, Cassell was a rookie, Elie was in his 3rd year...Max was in his 5th year and having the worst year of his career. Dream did win with less talent because he was simply the best. Go find me any other player in NBA history who won a ship with less help and less NBA experience than Dream did in 94.
What the hell are you talking about? I remember 94 like it was yesterday. Maxwell was having an amazing year, he led the Rockets in assists. Look at Dream before the Clutch City heroes, he had Buck Johnson, and old Sleepy Floyd, Winston Garland, do you need me to tell you more?? Robert Horry was badass, he was dunking on Karl Malone and defended Barkley. Maxwell was locking down Reggie Miller. You COMPLETELY NEGLECT THE DEFENSE of our SUPPORTING CAST. Yeah, Cassell was a Rookie. You know what he did right? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/qunCpYSvnqo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Great, Maxwell led the team with 5 assists per game. You're just digging yourself deeper right now. Did you look at any of his other stats or advanced metrics, though? The 93-94 season was easily the worst year for him as a pro up to that point. It's not debatable. I liked Max too, in fact I liked all of the players who helped us win titles. But that's beside the point. The point is that Hakeem won with less help than other superstars were gifted and you still have yet to refute this. Anyway, its no big deal, Merry Christmas.
You didn't watch the championship seasons. Maxwell was awesome that year, you hide behind your stats cause you never saw the season. You do realize that Rudy T changed the offense right? It was different from Don Chaney? you know the former coach? Maxwell was a 2 guard, not the point. the offense was based on getting the ball to dream and having him pass it out. I made a thread about this. you can go on there and tell me how horrible these guys were, these were champions, and we had different heroes every game.
I remember the season quite well. I remember all of the crazy last second shots of Max's career, I remember how he was also a warm body on the floor in other games. Guy was inconsistent as hell, he would show up for the big games though, which is was nice. If he had only been more consistent he could have added a year or two on to Hakeem's career, instead Hakeem had to carry the team on his back for 75% of the 82 game season. Our role players at that time were good enough to get the job done, but none of them were exceptional.
Oh you mean Robert Horry wasn't exceptional? the most clutch shooter in nba history? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/oEBETTilhtE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Or Sam Cassell? we don't have a PG after Cassell that couldn't compare, Francis, no, Lin, Beverly, Gogi, Lowry? Not in the same class <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/6PLWvSqkDAU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> you lost your cred dude. I never believe you saw that season at all.
I have more, so let me know if you require further proof. I even have ticket stubs to the semi's against Phoenix that year. Just because you started your account here in 99 doesn't give you the right to claim better fandom than me. But, that is the problem with this forum right now.
you can flip over your baseball cards and tell me how many games OTIS THORPE missed that season. was OT an All star? yeah... unexecptional supporting cast, my ****ing ass
you belittle our championship supporting cast. my fandom isn't the one you should be worried about, maybe you need to go to Total Recall and remember that season and how important each Rocket was to the Rockets and to Dream. I hope you remember that Dream asked his teammates to join him when he won the MVP.
I don't belittle them. That is your direction here, not mine. I simply stated that Dream carried a weaker supporting cast to a championship than any other star did. If you care to refute this point then do so. If not, then that's ok too. Merry Christmas.
the word "WEAK" and Clutch City don't mix. Cassell helped the Bucks, Wolves, Clippers to playoff success Horry won 7 titles and everybody remembers everyone of his game winning shots Clyde Drexler is one of the greatest players ever Otis Thorpe actually helped Detroit make it to the playoffs Mario Elie helped the Spurs win a title Underrated Supporting Cast. I'm so glad Kenny keeps telling everyone about the good ole days on TNT. Our team was ****ing badass, and we wasted the Bulls with Jordan and his 'supporting cast'
Well, they do mix if you consider everything that has happened in sports to this city since Dream left.
^ this. Its stupid when fans try to "outfan" each other. Its like trying to be part of the popular girls clique in middle school.
Ticket stubs don't mean anything. If you saw the 94,95 Rockets win a championship, you know they had an exceptional supporting cast . While people were in awe that Hakeem destroyed David Robinson, Robert Horry actually hit the game winning shot against them. I don't know what the hell you are babbling about clique. it's either you know it or your don't. history.
