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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. Voice of Aus

    Voice of Aus Member

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    - I'm not sure how we have a terrible defence when we are actually ranked 7th in PPS.
    - he only plays our starters a lot of minutes because he doesn't fully trust our bench to keep us in games. Which is true, and I don't have a problem with the minutes since we having been winning many games as a blowout
    - so are you saying we just don't have any in game adjustments, do you guys think he knows nothing about the game of basketball and how to put players in winning positions, their are always instances of coach changing the way we guard players throughout a game.
    - no strategy? Our strategy is to play inside out, which is one of the most statistically positive ways to play as the shot the team, we run our offence through dwight now, even if he doesn't touch the ball the mere fact that teams try and stop the entry pass opens up other options in our hybrid read and react offence.
    - harden's ISO's are actually very effective if you look at this thread he is one of the top ISO players in the league, I think your being to negative and have pre consumed ideas of how you want this team to play
     
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  2. thejav

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    Morey should coach..have the players wear Google glasses and a super computer as the assistant coach.. analytics FTW..problem solved..
     
  3. kuku

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    Miami's perimeter defense is the best in the league. You can't serious compare them to Rockets. They hedge on all PnR's, aggressive attacking and trapping ball handlers. They switch to trap and not at the slightest sign of a pick, which is what we do.

    Our switch defense is atrocious and always ended up with mismatches. You will not find the shortest Miami player guarding Dirk 1-on-1 or Dwight drawn out of paint guarding Parker, which happened to us on a consistent basis.
     
  4. beastlyball

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    Why should we as fan want it to run its course? Why should the players be put through another 2/3 of season practicing a failed system? Why not bring in a good coach, JVG, or GC and have them set the tone for the rest of the season, and into the next?

    The window of opportunity for the Rox is in the next few years. (2-3) I believe the Heat will be done for after this season even if they resign LBJ. The Spurs are on their last leg, truly now! The Eastern conference is a joke, so the Rox do truly have a great chance at a chip. We need a real head coach, not a experiment gone epic McFail.
     
  5. roxallways

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    McHale is more than likely gone after this year. Like I said earlier in this epic thread, unless the Rox absolutely fall on their asses, the front office won't be firing McHale in the middle of the year. They will more than likely give McHale this whole season to see what he can do with more talent on the roster. I don't feel the front office will renew his contract which is over after this year if I'm not mistaken. I would love for McHale to be gone ASAP as well but its not likely to happen in the middle of the year so we just have to see how this year pans out before any coaching changes are likely to happen.
     
  6. kuku

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    Voice of Aus.

    I like your passion and most of your posts, but statistically speaking and contrary to improvement you'd stated, we are the same team as last year.

    Offensive efficiency in PPP
    This year: 1.053
    Last year: 1.057

    Defensive efficiency in PPP
    This year: 1.011
    Last year: 1.028

    We actually regressed on offense and improved by 0.017 PPP. If you consider we added the best center and had two of the top 5 rim protectors for most of the season, it's not even something to brag about.

    Edit:
    We rank 13th in defensive efficiency.
     
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  7. Voice of Aus

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    Im gonna do what not many CF'ers do and concede to someone who made a good argument. REP given

    im still valuing Mchale as a coach who can take us all the way, that you wont change
     
  8. JJHardLin

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    why is he not fired yet? McHale won't cut it if we want to go deep in the playoffs
     
  9. ed_tx

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    I was at the game and every time in the 4th we made a run and got some momentum, Dallas would come back and dump the ball to Dirk and he would shoot easily over Garcia. I think it happened 3 times in a row. At that point you would think, hey- I need to make a change and put in a bigger body to force Dirk to shoot over. Why not put T-Jones back in? It's not like Francisco was lighting it up tonight.
     
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    Hey, I'd love for McHale to get run now and have a real coach brought in to replace him. But there are several reasons dude will finish the season with the Rockets(in no particular order):

    1) The team is 18-11. Should they be better? Absolutely. But this isn't a Brooklyn Nets-level disaster here. They have a winning record. They made the playoffs last year. And there are enough injury problems and pouting issues with Asik to give McHale a pass.

    2) The players like McHale(as far as we know anyway). Dwight even cited McHale as one of the main reasons he came here. Firing him when the team has a winning record could cause major turmoil in the locker room. You think a moody Asik is bad? Imagine the other 14 guys acting the same way.

    3) McHale's mom just died. Ok, so this organization fired Rudy when he was recovering from bladder cancer. Still, I think it would be a PR nightmare for Les and Daryl to can the guy right after he endured a loss in the family just a year after his daughter passed away.

    4) The big name coaches who are available may not want to join the Rockets in midseason. JVG took over the Knicks during the 1996-97 season, but he was an assistant coach who was elevated to the top spot when Nellie was canned. Since being fired by the Rockets, he's been very hesitant to jump back into coaching. I get the impression he's waiting the for right opportunity AND time. SVG has coached two teams, both of them he took over during the offseason. Lionel Hollins did get the Memphis gig in midseason as did George Karl with both Seattle and Denver, so there is precedent there. But unless Morey already has a deal in place with one of those guys, it's a huge gamble to fire McHale and assume any of them will take the head coaching job here without an offseason and training camp first.
     
  11. jtr

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    So little knowledge and even less understanding. Are you really that dense?
     
  12. jtr

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    Jones is a defensive disaster. Plain and simple. The guy has absolutely no idea how to rotate on defense. And Dirk mained him.
     
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    1) The Brooklyn Nets experiment was a disaster from jump street. They brought in two big name players(old) hoping to make it work. This tactic much like the one used by the Lakers last season is nothing new. It just show an inexperience owner shelling out dough hoping to win a ring. Fact is, players need to develop chemistry before they can get going. That win now mentality is just like Stephen A. Smith, a pile of horse crap. This is the NBA, you can buy yourself a ring, but you still need time to make it happen.

    2) McHale may or may not be the reason why Dwight signed, but lets not be sidetracked for why he's here. He's here to win Championship(s). I don't think he'd be unhappy if he won one under JVG or some other coach. If he feels very strongly about McHale, I wouldn't mind signing McHale to his personal advisor, mentor type role. As far as creating turmoil, I think you're just reaching there. There are no signs that anyone would be unhappy if he was fired.

    3) Very sad for his personal loses. I will not touch on personal and family matter.

    4) I agree with you there and you make some solid points.
     
  15. spdngyns69

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    I just absolutely hate these damn Mavs and they better make it up next time they play them in Dallas.
     
  16. ed_tx

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    Which is so funny b/c everyone was praising his D when he first started getting some minutes.

    Regardless, he is young and I will chalk it up to a rookie playing against one of the best ever will get owned. But down the stretch, I would rather have seen him putting a body on Dirk and getting a hand up in Dirks face than a helpless Garcia. I was in the Lowers at TC and could see Garcia's helpless look everytime Dirk got the ball.
     
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    I never praised Jones defense. He has been a defensive minus. If Harden had been in the game Parsons would have been able to contain Dirk. And no, Harden is actually a plus defensive player. Injuries suck.
     
  20. jtr

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    Complete waste of bandwidth dude. Get a life. Jifs do not matter. Ideas do. Is your brain so barren that you have to resort to mindless images?
     

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