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Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. PnRScreen

    PnRScreen Rookie

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    why blame Lin??

    Mcfail had it coming by benching him to develop so call chemistry with 2nd unit that was barely in the rotation.

    He was given PG role but wasnt being use as one. Right now, he's more like a SG than PG tbh.
     
  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    gtfo with your nonsense. I guess its McHale's fault every time Lin does something. Worst fans in the world, almost like the orcs of mordor looking to take a dump where ever they go
     
  3. Crashlanded19

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    who does he have to blame for that?...Mchale isn't the one out there turning the the ball over for him...he also isn't the one out there ignoring dwight post plays...stop blaming others when lin makes mistakes
     
  4. SugarLandDream8

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    Why are you implying the Rockets lost today because Bev wasn't starting? lmao. Some of you people smh.


    From what any objective person would think they'll say the PGs cancelled each out tonight and Lin was pretty good especially coming back from back spasms.

    Tonight

    Lin 20 points on 6-10, 60% FG

    Calderon 15 points on 6-12, 50% FG

    They pretty much guarded each other and the PG position was a wash. Lin's D was OK.

    Mekel was the back up PG and he shot 1-5 20% FG

    Occasionally Lin guarded Ellis and he was 4-16, 25 FG%

    Calderon is an established NBA starting PG and Lin played as well as him. That's pretty good.

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    But if Bev and his "legendary defense" played things would have been different. Oh what happened the last game vs the Mavs?

    Bev played 37 min, Lin only 17

    Rockets lost

    Bev 9 points on 3-9, 33% FG

    Calderon on only 29 minutes, 13 points, 4-8, 50% FG
    Ellis 37 points on 13-18, 73 FG% often with Bev guarding him
    Larkin 8 points on 3-5, 60 FG%

    So today Lin's D caused the Rockets to lose but Bev's legendary D would have caused the Rockets to win if he was playing lmao
     
  5. Crashlanded19

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    parsons guarded ellis and held him down....stop making excuses for a grown ass men
     
  6. bws

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    Are you guys for real? You sound ridiculous. Lin played not great defense at all and had one more TO than Parsons and Howard for the game and only 1 in the second half. But 10 shots at the line and 20 points on 7-10 shooting. Once he gets proper chemistry he'll put up assists to or if when he passes to Casspi or Garcia they actually make a shot. Beverley is a great player to have but his high was 19 this season. Lin scores 20 coming back after playing only 2 games the whole month. Your reaching with your Lin absolute nonsense tonight. His penetration and scoring are great, he needs to tighten things up but they are very fixable things and let's just see what happens with the next few games.
     
  7. bws

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    make that 6-10 shooting for Lin.
     
  8. SugarLandDream8

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    Yeah Lin guarded Calderon for most of the game and Calderon guarded Lin most of the game. What excuses? It was a wash. Neither got the better of the other.


    So the Mavs was 11-22 from 3 point line and that was because Lin was playing and not Bev lmao.


    So Bev would have stopped

    SG Vince Carter from making 2-3 from 3
    SF Crowder from making 3-5 from 3
    PF Dirk from making 1-3

    6/11 threes made

    other 5 threes made

    3 from Calderon and 2 from Elis
     
  9. tonman

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    good enough to do WHAT? the offense isn't set to have a PG pound the freaking ball. don't you know that by now? that is the reason Bev is starting, not his famous defense or his exceptional energy or his three point shooting ability.

    you bring in Williams and he's gonna stand there in the corner and watch harden or howard shoot.

    and the issue isn't individual defense. this makes 5 of the last 7 opponents scoring over 100 points and lin wasn't playing in the last 6 games. the problem is lack of team defense and a lack of team offense. I guess you could say the rockets lack the ability to play as a team.
     
  10. EnergyGuy

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    You need to check the stats for Beverley's first game back starting from injury

    Something like 1-10 FG.

    And the first two games Beverley back from injury starting were losses.
     
  11. tonman

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    was parsons playing SG? I couldn't watch the game but it is highly unrealistic for Houston to take a 6-9 parsons and have him guard a 6-3 ellis. but I could be wrong.
     
  12. SugarLandDream8

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    Just check the last game Rockets played the Mavs where Bev was fully healthy and in game shape where the Mavs beat the Rockets and Ellis, Calderon had good games with Bev guarding them.

    Tonight the PGs cancelled each other out.

    Lin was decent. 20 points on 6-10.

    TOs was a bit high but similar to what Harden normally gets. And most of Lin's 5 Tos was in the first half when the Rockets led 57-50

    The game was lost in the 3rd and 4th quarter and it wasn't because of Lin. He didn't do anything exceptional to win the game but he was Ok and played the Mav's PGs to a wash
     
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    That guy is an idiot who didn't watch the game.

    Garcia guarded Ellis most of the night and did an amazing job. Lin occasionally guarded Ellis too but he mostly guarded calderon
     
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    Parsons and Howard had 4 turnovers in the second half when we were down, and needed points, stuff happens players do that, won't catch me bashing them

    But Lins were in the 1st half when we were up the whole time and all you see in the past 10pages is Lin lost the game
     
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    have to agree with this. I was not expecting Lin to score 20 tonight and being efficient. Esp with 2 weeks out + back spasms, I have to say I am surprised to also see him play this many minutes despite not having the team healthy.

    People freak out so much
     
  16. Spiegel

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    Lin was terrible as a playmaker 2 assists and 5 turnovers in a loss. even Brooks had more assists.I like lin as a 2 guard, but his playmaking was poor tonight.
     
  17. Doppleganger

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    Lin did what he had to do tonight. He provided a body and scoring, and did well despite coming back from an injury. Assists mostly came from other people on the team, even Garcia because he couldn't land anything tonight.
     
  18. LosPollosHermanos

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    I'm not even gonna read this thread. All the cult fans will just make this loss worse.
     
  19. tonman

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    dude, practice and games speeds are two different things. not making excuses but you expect that the player coming back from being out for several games has to get their legs under them and play at game speed. apparently lin was shooting a lot of shots during practice. maybe should have shot a few more free throws in practice.

    brooks played well but he also cranked up 13 shots in 27 minutes. then again he was the Houston bench. at least casspi didn't start raining threes.
     
  20. LosPollosHermanos

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    If Brooks wasn't cranking up those shots we wouldn't have even been in the game.
     

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