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[WTF] Man throws himself, 3 year old son off the roof of a 52-story apartment in NY

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by roxxfan, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. Andrew Wiggins

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    Forget my posts. I just wanted to make this point now that I have everyone's attention:

    Shouldn't a man have some right to his son? I mean, why is it automatic that men lose every custody battle if both partners are fitting?
     
  2. B-Bob

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    Dude, Wiggins, you are totally hurting your draft stock right now. Teams monitor clutchfans!
     
  3. liljojo

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    Yes, but stories like this aren't helping our case.
     
  4. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Judging by what he did he definitely wasn't fitting.
     
  5. Andrew Wiggins

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    This guy was obviously crazy as ****. There is no defending the actions of a child murderer. But when discussing his motives, if we assume the worst every time then that leaves the possibility of it repeating. We should not just blindly assume what the OP suggested. There is always the chance that he may have done it because he wanted to make a statement. Maybe if he at least believed he had a chance to fight for his son in court he would have moved on.

    You guys jumping to conclusions are what's wrong.
     
  6. Surfguy

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    BS. He did it for one reason and one reason only (as they all do)...as revenge to inflict the maximum amount of damage against his ex by depriving her of the chance to raise her son and stigmatizing her with the worst possible memory possible so she will never forget. It's basically the "with me or not at all while you pay the highest price possible" scenario.
     
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  7. Haymitch

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    I get what you're saying, but just curious: What was your CF username before "Andrew Wiggins"?
     
  8. Andrew Wiggins

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    BS? What's up man, calm down. You don't know the bond this man had with his son, therefore WE are the last ones to assume his motives. We don't know any of them personally therefore there is the possibility.

    What gives anyone the right to decide which parent should be deprived the right to raise his or her son? It should be based on love, care, time, and financial situation. We obviously can't measure the first two systematically, which are most important, so we use time and money. Courts rule by precedence and men have always had more earning power which gives the woman more time and money to raise the kid. But that's changed and the gap has closed.
     
  9. sammy

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    No, basically the guy was effed up in the head.

    He couldn't have his son so nobody else could either.


    SELFISH
     
  10. Surfguy

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    I'm perfectly calm, dude.

    I don't care. All I care about his he killed his own son and that qualifies him as a bad parent. I can assume the bond was an evil one going by how it ended. Whatever kind of father he was before that act was nullified when he threw his son out the window. I have zero sympathy for this guy. He could have played it the other way like many other fathers have to and be responsible about it even if he didn't find it fair. If he didn't like it, then he should have just taken it out on himself and left his son alone.
     
  11. Andrew Wiggins

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    whatever. I woke up hungover on 2-2.5 hours of sleep and I don't care about making a point anymore.

    All of the f'd up **** that continues to happen in the world...everyone is angry, sad, and ****ed up. Just no way to stop it. Broken people are hopeless.
     
  12. B-Bob

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    Note to self (not Bill Self): take Toledo and the points against Kansas next week.
     
  13. roxxfan

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    False statement. For your sake I hope you were drunk posting all of this stuff
     
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    LOL at the fact that it was actually necessary to type that statement at face value in the process of trying to explain this situation to someone!

    :eek:
     
  15. HR Dept

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    Nah, you've already opened your mouth and removed all doubt. Sucks that you did it under your new username too... Looks like you're going to have to re-reinvent yourself with a new handle going into the new year. Sorry bretheren.
     
  16. Hmm

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    Andrew Wiggins seems to subscribe to the egocentric belief that the If-I-can't-have-you-no-one-will mentality... is the pinnacle of true love...

    Unfortunately for him, he doesn't realize how that in itself is a complete contradiction... pure nonsense...

    If your desire for another rests in an egocentric need... you're not demonstrating love for that individual, you're exhibiting a self-indulgent importance of ego... in caring only to provide pleasure to yourself with fulfillment of your own selfish, egocentric need, paying little mind, or none at all to how (the) other(s) is(are) affected...

    People don't kill people they claim to "love" out of passion for the other person, let alone because they actually love them... It's delusional retribution based on a psychological inability/intolerance to deal with the perceived diminishing of self... by the removal or threat of removal of what fulfills their emotionally egocentric need...

    In this case, he wasn't losing the child, he was losing custody of the child...

    If the man truly loved the child, but simply had a psychological inability to cope with the circumstances... he would've simply killed himself and spared the child... But, he didn't, did he? No, he felt another had to pay the price for his inability to cope... In other words, payed more importance to how he was emotionally impacted over the well-being of another... The quintessence of egocentric behavior... N

    It had nothing to do with love...
     
  17. Andrew Wiggins

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    This guy sounds broken and hopeless to me regardless of his motives. How bout this statement:

    Most broken people in today's society are hopeless.

    you guys take this forum too seriously. I didn't lose any arguments, but I think most people are hopeless. you can't be opinionated in some threads. I stand by what I said, but I don't care enough to defend it anymore.
     
  18. Andrew Wiggins

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    I just hate how EVERYONE assumes EVERYTHING about ANYTHING. It gets tiresome.

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  19. Hmm

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    A man killed his child by tossing him from 50+ feet high off a building because he lost custody.... These aren't assumptions, these are called documented facts...

    Your arguments in favor of relieving the man from pertinent condemnation, however... do rest on assumption...
     
  20. Andrew Wiggins

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    I stated the OP could be wrong about this being about revenge. Everyone read what they wanted to read.

    Not an assumption, but she doesn't look like someone I would kill myself over if she left me or I left her. It would take a lot more than that for me to ever consider killing myself, but I understand not everyone is like me.
     

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