I reckon a couple that can *not* have children for health, fertility, or age reasons... well, they just don't fit that "natural order of things." I reckon the good ol' democracy days that allowed the outlawing of interracial marriage... well, that was OK since people that didn't view interracial marriage as "normal" and were simply fighting to preserve how the world should be as well. How's it feel to be lumped in with those enlightened times????
We've had many dictators over the course of time who felt this way; If you disagree with me, you're a hater. Naturally the best way to do with people who disagree with you is to kill them off, amirite?
Don't blame me because you have fear and hate in your heart. Maybe you should ask your Jesus what to do?
This is the worst post you've ever made. Look, I know you're defensive about your position and lack of ability to justify it, but stooping to this level is frankly repulsive, and beneath you.
Texxx your self loathing is palpable. I suggest therapy to work though your hate. You do know it's perfectly normal to be gay right? Come on out, we'll love you just the same.
I think this topic is complex enough to where we can be pretty assured that it is not black or white. Otherwise, we would have clear-cut answers by now. So you agree, then, that's its not 100% a choice? In other words, it is, to some extent, involuntary? If we can agree up to that point, then the question is where that involuntary impulse arises from -- the environment or something innate in the person. Maybe, again, its safe to assume that it is a little bit of both?
I understand the argument of resisting sexual urges. I think that argument has validity with bisexuals, but not for homosexuals. The flaw, in my mind, with that argument is that homosexuals engage in a selective sexual urge. If it was purely for sexual release, why go about it in one way? Why do homosexuals not have sexual urges towards the other sex? All human sexual urges are dictated by the persons attraction. Attraction is not a choice. Can I explain it by science? Of course not. 100 people could think woman A is unattractive, but I could find her attractive. Say I find someone unattractive, can I choose to convince myself (s)he is attractive? I can tell myself that, but deep down it probably doesn't feel genuine. For whatever reason homosexuals only find the same sex attractive.
Don't get distracted. How do you choose to get aroused when you see a man? Have you made that conscious decision before?
Its not voluntary or involuntary. Its a preference. Its how ingrained the preference is. I love redheads. Does that mean I have to be with a redhead to be happy? No. Its not that that ingrained into me. On the other hand, I have no physical, emotional or sexual attraction to a guy. That is ingrained into me. If I willed it, then ya, maybe it could happen, as with anyone else. To oversimplify it saying its not a choice (born that way) is taking away the responsibility. Forget homosexuality for a moment. There are many things that are not socially acceptable that can be attributed to 'being born that way'. We don't give free passes for those people. This is a nature vs nurture argument. In our society, nurture is overwhelmingly dominant over nature. To accept that argument implies people have a choice and can be changed. Can people change? Yes. Should they be forced to or encouraged to? No. We are not all robots that can fit a nice neat matrix of attributes.
I think it is possible to do this, in part. Remember that anything we see with our eyes is filtered through our brains. So, I do think its possible to train oneself to overlook what we'd normally consider physical flaws and focus on other aspects which we find more attractive.
http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/world/2013/12/22/4165477/ i guess they made the 'choice' given their socio-economic position
I am speaking more about attraction in the sense that you are drawn to someone or something, rather than traditionally physically attractive. I can say Chandler Parsons is an attractive guy, but I am not attracted to him. I get what you mean, you can convince yourself of things with enough practice.
Hmm... you avoid the question about "choice" by calling it a preference instead. "Socially unacceptable"? "Free passes"? I am curious as to what some of these other "socially unacceptable" things that don't get "free passes"?
I can't remember if you have ever stated your beliefs on this. I am obviously guessing but pretty sure you think homosexuality is a choice. You often talk about liberals wanting to infringe on religion and religious belief but are you actually religious? Do you think homosexuality is a sin? Do you think it is a sin that means homosexuals will go to hell or, at the least, not enter heaven with God's grace? How should society treat homosexuals?
It sounds like you're saying that one may have "ingrained" homosexual preferences, but that through will-power it is "maybe" possible to alter it. Is that what you're saying? Let's then focus on what it means to have an ingrained preference. The very word "ingrained" suggests that it is not a "chosen" preference, but rather something you have deep down inside which you don't have direct control over. So then, my question was the following -- do you believe your ingrained preference for redheads is exclusively brought about through environment factors, was it something you were born with, or was it perhaps some combination?
Oh those gays and trans people they just choose and prefer that lifestyle. They just love being outcast by society and family! They are so quirky! They just love it when they are harassed and physically attacked. They prefer it!
I have friends and family who struggled to have children. Like any other medical issue, **** happens. How is being infertile different than having cancer? That is life, you take the lumps that are given to you. You can fight, or you can feel sorry for yourself. Up to you. In nature, not every male gets to breed - in most species it is only the strongest that breed. You only have the "right" to breed if someone from the opposite sex wants to breed with you. This is generally the case in nature too, where the females are usually only interested in the strongest, or the brightest. Does our country have a checkered past? Yes, but every country does. You learn from your mistakes, and again - the democracy rights itself. This country will be, the country that the people want it to be. That is how democracies work. The point is, from a religious perspective "urges" are simply a temptation. And it is your duty of a follower of said God, to resist those temptations if they are deemed sin. Temptation comes in all shapes and sizes. The story of Adam and Eve tells this from the start. The same argument can be said of abortion. Just because it is legal in the US, doesn't mean that as a Christian I think it is right and okay for my fellow Christians to do it. I'm told otherwise by my God. I answer to him first and foremost. Now would I judge a woman for having an abortion? No, that "sin" is between them and God. With that said, I feel it is my right to try and fight for the unborn due to my religious beliefs (Jeremiah 1:5), but I'm not going to go blow up a clinic - one sin does not negate another. I'd say 90% of being a Godly person is walking the life God wants you to walk. Be the person He wants you to be. And in my belief, that person shouldn't be gay. With that said, being gay isn't a sin, acting out on it is. Just as being fat, or having sex out of wedlock or any other sin. I'm not judging gay people for sinning, because I sin too. I'm just trying to give perspective on why many Christians believe homosexuality is a sin. And in our world, if it is a sin - it isn't acceptable, so it is our duty to try and fight the acceptance of sin as a societal norm. It is our duty to make sure we try and leave the world God created better off for our future generations. Remember, my God is a vengeful God who flooded the world and wiped Sodom and Gomorrah off the map. I know a lot of gay people, and many of them are better people and human beings than many "Christians" I know. Nearly every gay person I know is also Christian, and I think you can be both. Only God can judge you, and I know I've done my fair share of sinning so I can't judge even if I wanted to.
